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Text pixelated scotts 02 Apr 15:43
  Text pixelated Ofnuts 03 Apr 09:03
   Text pixelated scotts 03 Apr 16:50
  Text pixelated rich404 03 Apr 10:47
   Text pixelated scotts 03 Apr 16:52
    Text pixelated rich404 03 Apr 17:37
    Text pixelated Rick Strong 03 Apr 20:09
    Text pixelated rich404 04 Apr 11:01
     Text pixelated scotts 04 Apr 15:00
     Text pixelated scotts 04 Apr 17:43
2020-04-02 15:43:15 UTC (2 months ago)
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I have read several posts on this topic, yet I cannot find a solution. I cannot get my text to look decent... it is totally pixelated. I've tried dozens of different fonts, sizes, hinting, anti-aliasing, etc.

I've attached a screenshot I'm working on. The exported image is worse; RGB-alpha, 300 dpi, zero compression.

Any suggestions?

Attachments: * https://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1384/original/gimp-text-pixelated.jpg

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2020-04-03 09:03:05 UTC (2 months ago)

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On 02/04/2020 17:43, scotts wrote:

I have read several posts on this topic, yet I cannot find a solution. I cannot get my text to look decent... it is totally pixelated. I've tried dozens of different fonts, sizes, hinting, anti-aliasing, etc.

I've attached a screenshot I'm working on. The exported image is worse; RGB-alpha, 300 dpi, zero compression.

Any suggestions?

Attachments: * https://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1384/original/gimp-text-pixelated.jpg

At 15px (which is really 10px high for uppercase, and even less for lowercase) all text looks pixellated. On your display it can look cleaner because they can use subpixel-rendering(*), but this only works if the text is generated on the fly for the current display, in a bitmap image you could make the text look a bit better for some but a lot worse for others.

If you intend the image to be printed a 15px font is much too small anyway.

If your image is mostly text, Gimp is the wrong tool.

(*) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subpixel_rendering

2020-04-03 10:47:00 UTC (2 months ago)
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I have read several posts on this topic, yet I cannot find a solution. I cannot
get my text to look decent... it is totally pixelated. I've tried dozens of
different fonts, sizes, hinting, anti-aliasing, etc.

I've attached a screenshot I'm working on. The exported image is worse;
RGB-alpha, 300 dpi, zero compression.

Any suggestions?

It has been reported as a bug that small text in Gimp 2.10 is faint. Different from Gimp 2.8

Try setting the text layer mode to legacy (emulate Gimp 2.8) as screenshot.

Another way is duplicate the text layers to make less faint.

Attachments: * https://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1385/original/fainttext.jpg

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2020-04-03 16:50:27 UTC (2 months ago)
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If your image is mostly text, Gimp is the wrong tool.

This particular image includes a lot of text and graphics. What tool should I be using for this, if not GIMP?

This may be a naive question, but why can't I get the same resolution in GIMP text directly than I can from creating the text in my word-processor and screenshoting it into my GIMP image?

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2020-04-03 16:52:51 UTC (2 months ago)
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Try setting the text layer mode to legacy (emulate Gimp 2.8) as

I don't see the 'Legacy' option. How do I get that module/dialog you're showing?

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2020-04-03 17:37:22 UTC (2 months ago)
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why can't I get the same resolution in GIMP text directly than I can from creating the text in my word-processor and screenshoting it into my GIMP image

You know the answer to that, you already tried quote ... dozens of different fonts, sizes, hinting, anti-aliasing

The effect is the anti-aliasing that is rendered to the display. Your word-processor screenshot is just that an image.

I don't see the 'Legacy' option. How do I get that module/dialog you're showing?

Come to the conclusion that nothing will help your perception of Gimp.

However, the legacy option is in the top right corner of the layers dock. No layers dock? Bring one up with ctrl-L

example: https://i.imgur.com/nd0jjHr.mp4

Increasing the font size a tiny amount can make a difference to a zoomed in display, The real test is how does it print.

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Rick Strong
2020-04-03 20:09:12 UTC (2 months ago)

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Under Layers-Mode, click the down arrow in the far, far upper RH corner. The arrow beside the one that says "Normal". I hope my screenshot came through.

Rick S. Ottawa.

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Try setting the text layer mode to legacy (emulate Gimp 2.8) as

I don't see the 'Legacy' option. How do I get that module/dialog you're showing?

2020-04-04 11:01:10 UTC (2 months ago)
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I don't see the 'Legacy' option. How do I get that module/dialog you're showing?

One last try.

You should always give full information Operating system / Gimp version.

Are you using Gimp 2.8? That of course is already 'legacy' Using Gimp 2.10 the default / legacy is stated earlier, is top left corner of the Layers dock.

Back to the pixelated text. With those tiny characters, lower case is only 8 pixels high, anti-aliasing is a major part of the rendering in a bitmap (raster) image. The only way around is make the text larger.

Then it depends on purpose. Are you going to print these (bingo?) as cards? or part of a web page or...some other use.

As earlier post, some other application might be better suited than Gimp. Inkscape would handle the text better, and exported as a PDF text will scale correctly on a computer display. There is a problem there with your uncommon bahnschrift font. Than needs embedding correctly in the PDF. Do not use Gimp to create a PDF.

A couple of examples attached. Comparison between an Inkscape PDF and Gimp zoomed in to 400% and if it attaches the PDF.

Attachments: * https://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1387/original/inkscape.jpg * https://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1388/original/bingo.pdf

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2020-04-04 15:00:27 UTC (2 months ago)
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A couple of examples attached. Comparison between an Inkscape PDF and Gimp zoomed in to 400% and if it attaches the PDF.

Thanks Rich!

GIMP: 2.10.14; found the Legacy option, thanks.

This is going to be a web graphic, not printed. I neglected to provide what it looks like saved, but it is worse than what the computer displays.

Using Inkscape seems to make a huge difference... I will give that a try.

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2020-04-04 17:43:16 UTC (2 months ago)
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Not certain how you accomplished the Inkscape text, but the best way I could make it work was to... save a png of the base background in gimp, import into inkscape, add my text, export as PDF text, import back into gimp. Unless there is a means of saving the PDF with a transparent background. I did try importing the PDF with just text and erasing the background with the magic wand, but didnt look good. Thanks again. Attached is a screenshot of the end result. Upload stalled out at 25% of final image (1.7MB).

Attachments: * https://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/1389/original/bingo-card-ex.jpg

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