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No gimp-python in Debian (Testing)

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2013874685.4959003.15820806... 19 Feb 02:51
  No gimp-python in Debian (Testing) Scott Jacobs via gimp-user-list 19 Feb 02:50
   No gimp-python in Debian (Testing) Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list 19 Feb 03:53
    No gimp-python in Debian (Testing) Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list 19 Feb 05:08
Scott Jacobs via gimp-user-list
2020-02-19 02:50:42 UTC (about 4 years ago)

No gimp-python in Debian (Testing)

Do you have python installed? On my Ubuntu system the 'python' package is 2.7.

I had not.

The second dpkg call, where I attempted to install both gimp-python and python-gtk2 from my previous debian install (in another partition), apparently left a record of its attempt, for when I called up synaptic to see if python was installed, python and six or eight other python-related packages were already selected for install to correct 'broken' packages. Once I let it install them, I called the dpkg call again, and was successful.

Note that my success was only because I had my earlier debian install available to raid, and that the apt package cache had not been cleaned out and the two packages were right there.

Someone who had newly come to debian testing or sid, or had erased his previous install when installing, or who had been a good housekeeper and cleaned out his cached packages, would not have had the option that was ultimately successful for me.

I assume gimp-python will have to be updated to use python3 at some point, or more and more people will find that GIMP no longer will be able to run python plugins. (I don't know if all, some or few of the plugins will have to be updated as well - if the Python API has changed enough to be a problem for legacy Python apps/plugins, or not...)

Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
2020-02-19 03:53:03 UTC (about 4 years ago)

No gimp-python in Debian (Testing)

What distro are you using? python2.7 and the rest are available on Debian 10. I think it is an issue for the distro creators to address as all the necessary packages exist in vanilla Debian.

Cheers,

Cliff

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:51 PM Scott Jacobs via gimp-user-list < gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote:

Do you have python installed? On my Ubuntu system the 'python' package is

2.7.
I had not.

The second dpkg call, where I attempted to install both gimp-python and python-gtk2 from my previous
debian install (in another partition), apparently left a record of its attempt, for when I called up synaptic to see if python was installed, python and six or eight other python-related packages were already selected for install to correct 'broken' packages. Once I let it install them, I called the dpkg call again, and was successful.

Note that my success was only because I had my earlier debian install available to raid, and that the apt
package cache had not been cleaned out and the two packages were right there.

Someone who had newly come to debian testing or sid, or had erased his previous install when installing,
or who had been a good housekeeper and cleaned out his cached packages, would not have had the option
that was ultimately successful for me.

I assume gimp-python will have to be updated to use python3 at some point, or more and more people will
find that GIMP no longer will be able to run python plugins. (I don't know if all, some or few of the plugins will have to be updated as well - if the Python API has changed enough to be a problem for legacy Python apps/plugins, or not...) _______________________________________________ gimp-user-list mailing list
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Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
2020-02-19 05:08:06 UTC (about 4 years ago)

No gimp-python in Debian (Testing)

Scratch my previous replies.

There are two issues here. The first is to make python2.7 and friends, including gimp-python, available in a system running testing. This could perhaps be done by running a mixed stable/testing system. I've done this is the past without major issues, but you'll need to set things like the default release (APT::Default-Release "testing";) and other stuff.

Something like this is discussed here. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60555/debian-is-it-possible-safe-to-install-packages-from-an-older-version-of-the-rep

The second issue is what happens when gimp-python *has* to be updated to python3 some time in the future? Then all the python2.7 plugins will break. Now the GIMP people do not supply the plugins and the best that they could do is to publicise the change well in advance. Perhaps there could be two gimp-pythons? There will still be plugins that don't get updated, of course. There's nothing that the GIMP people can do about that.

Cheers,

Cliff

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 4:53 PM Cliff Pratt wrote:

What distro are you using? python2.7 and the rest are available on Debian 10. I think it is an issue for the distro creators to address as all the necessary packages exist in vanilla Debian.

Cheers,

Cliff

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:51 PM Scott Jacobs via gimp-user-list < gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote:

Do you have python installed? On my Ubuntu system the 'python' package

is 2.7.
I had not.

The second dpkg call, where I attempted to install both gimp-python and python-gtk2 from my previous
debian install (in another partition), apparently left a record of its attempt, for when I called up synaptic to see if python was installed, python and six or eight other python-related packages were already selected for install to correct 'broken' packages. Once I let it install them, I called the dpkg call again, and was successful.

Note that my success was only because I had my earlier debian install available to raid, and that the apt
package cache had not been cleaned out and the two packages were right there.

Someone who had newly come to debian testing or sid, or had erased his previous install when installing,
or who had been a good housekeeper and cleaned out his cached packages, would not have had the option
that was ultimately successful for me.

I assume gimp-python will have to be updated to use python3 at some point, or more and more people will
find that GIMP no longer will be able to run python plugins. (I don't know if all, some or few of the plugins will have to be updated as well - if the Python API has changed enough to be a problem for legacy Python apps/plugins, or not...) _______________________________________________ gimp-user-list mailing list
List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list

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