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pop-up dialog windows Alex Feldman 27 Jan 22:55
  pop-up dialog windows David Gowers 28 Jan 05:16
  pop-up dialog windows Wolfgang Bauer 28 Jan 12:15
   pop-up dialog windows Sven Neumann 28 Jan 12:57
pop-up dialog windows Alex Feldman 28 Jan 15:26
  pop-up dialog windows Sven Neumann 28 Jan 17:12
Alex Feldman
2007-01-27 22:55:19 UTC (over 17 years ago)

pop-up dialog windows

Hi,

This is a very minor issue, just something for the devteam to think about if they happen to be doing something related with the code.

I like to have the focus follow my mouse, and not to have to click to raise a window. That preference has to do with many applications other than the Gimp. I find when I am cleaning up a photograph with Gimp, often, maybe always, the filter dialog windows pop up right on top of the image window I am working with. If I don't get the mouse into it quickly enough, it disappears under the image window and I have to move the image to get to it, and then typically move the image back to see all of it.

I don't think this happens as often with other popups, like the levels dialog. It often shows up outside the image window. If the algorithm(?) that places the dialog box could either try to find some open desktop, avoid the image window, or always go to the same place so I would know to keep the image window away from there, it would improve my workflow a tiny bit.

Thanks.

David Gowers
2007-01-28 05:16:21 UTC (over 17 years ago)

pop-up dialog windows

On 1/28/07, Alex Feldman wrote:

Hi,

This is a very minor issue, just something for the devteam to think about if they happen to be doing something related with the code.

I like to have the focus follow my mouse, and not to have to click to raise a window. That preference has to do with many applications other than the Gimp. I find when I am cleaning up a photograph with Gimp, often, maybe always, the filter dialog windows pop up right on top of the image window I am working with. If I don't get the mouse into it quickly enough, it disappears under the image window and I have to move the image to get to it, and then typically move the image back to see all of it.

I don't think this happens as often with other popups, like the levels dialog. It often shows up outside the image window. If the algorithm(?) that places the dialog box could either try to find some open desktop, avoid the image window, or always go to the same place so I would know to keep the image window away from there, it would improve my workflow a tiny bit.

Thanks.

-- --alex

Sounds like a window manager bug. Logically, transient windows should have priority when focus-follows-mouse is enabled -- and most filter windows are now transient.
Knowing which version of Gimp you're using would help -- gimp. 2.2.x may well still have non-transient filter dialogs.

Wolfgang Bauer
2007-01-28 12:15:55 UTC (over 17 years ago)

pop-up dialog windows

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:55:19 -0700 Alex Feldman wrote:

Hi,

This is a very minor issue, just something for the devteam to think about if they happen to be doing something related with the code.

This is Windows specific

I like to have the focus follow my mouse, and not to have to click to raise a window. That preference has to do with many applications other than the Gimp. I find when I am cleaning up a photograph with Gimp, often, maybe always, the filter dialog windows pop up right on top of the image window I am working with. If I don't get the mouse into it quickly enough, it disappears under the image window and I have to move the image to get to it, and then typically move the image back to see all of it.

Hallo Alex,

under windows there are some tools from Microsoft that include focus follows mouse:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Greetings

Wolfgang

Sven Neumann
2007-01-28 12:57:15 UTC (over 17 years ago)

pop-up dialog windows

Hi,

Quite a lot of effort has gone into improving this behaviour in the development branch of GIMP. We tried to make most, if not all, popup windows transient to their parent window. This improves usability a lot and it reduces clutter in the taskbar.

Unfortunately though it turned out that this doesn't work on the Windows platform. It doesn't seem to be possible to make dialogs that are created from a plug-in transient for the image window as that window belongs to a different process. Windows users will thus not benefit from a lot of the usability improvements that have gone into the 2.3 series.

Sven

Alex Feldman
2007-01-28 15:26:09 UTC (over 17 years ago)

pop-up dialog windows

Hi,

OK, so I've been reading about transient windows, but still have a lot to learn.

Usually when I'm retouching photographs, I detach the filters/enhance menu (among others) and leave it open on the desktop as I go through lots of different images in their own windows. I call up the unsharp mask from this little menu, which is very convenient - great design, but does it mean that the popup is transient to the menu window, rather than the image window?

I'm using FC5, not Microsoft. Gimp is 2.2.13, and kde 3.5

Thanks very much for the replies.

Sven Neumann
2007-01-28 17:12:00 UTC (over 17 years ago)

pop-up dialog windows

Hi,

On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 07:26 -0700, Alex Feldman wrote:

Usually when I'm retouching photographs, I detach the filters/enhance menu (among others) and leave it open on the desktop as I go through lots of different images in their own windows. I call up the unsharp mask from this little menu, which is very convenient - great design, but does it mean that the popup is transient to the menu window, rather than the image window?

No, it's transient to the image window.

I'm using FC5, not Microsoft. Gimp is 2.2.13, and kde 3.5

In GIMP 2.2, plug-in dialogs are not transient windows.

Sven