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Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated

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Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated julien 04 Aug 21:37
  Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated Axel Wernicke 04 Aug 22:19
   Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated julien 05 Aug 08:31
    Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated Axel Wernicke 05 Aug 08:59
     Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated julien 05 Aug 15:12
      Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated Roman Joost 06 Aug 13:27
julien
2007-08-04 21:37:39 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated

What do we do with the text of abandoned languages in xml files? Do we delete it or mark it with ?
gimp-help has become so huge that deleting seems the best solution.

I started updating some files to en;fr: what must I do with obsolete texts in other languages : keep, mark them as deprecated or delete them? Sometimes, the xml structure has to be change. In this case, deleting is also the best solution, the file becomes messy otherwise.

Julien

Axel Wernicke
2007-08-04 22:19:00 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated

Hi,

how about simply disabling the language in the root element of each .xml file? Additionally a comment could be put into the section history.

Greetings, lexA

Am 04.08.2007 um 21:37 schrieb julien:

What do we do with the text of abandoned languages in xml files? Do we delete it or mark it with ?
gimp-help has become so huge that deleting seems the best solution.

I started updating some files to en;fr: what must I do with obsolete texts in other languages : keep, mark them as deprecated or delete them?
Sometimes, the xml structure has to be change. In this case, deleting is
also the best solution, the file becomes messy otherwise.

Julien

julien
2007-08-05 08:31:40 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated

If there are changes in the xml structure, file will result somewhat messy...

And what do we do with obsolete images? Some languages use the "en" image. If I
create a new 'en' image, I must give it another name if I keep the old one.

dialogs/brushes-dialog.xml is a good example for that kind of problems.

Julien

Axel Wernicke wrote:

Hi,

how about simply disabling the language in the root element of each .xml file? Additionally a comment could be put into the section history.

Greetings, lexA

Am 04.08.2007 um 21:37 schrieb julien:

What do we do with the text of abandoned languages in xml files? Do we delete it or mark it with ?
gimp-help has become so huge that deleting seems the best solution.

I started updating some files to en;fr: what must I do with obsolete texts in other languages : keep, mark them as deprecated or delete them? Sometimes, the xml structure has to be change. In this case, deleting is also the best solution, the file becomes messy otherwise.

Julien

Axel Wernicke
2007-08-05 08:59:20 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated

Hi,

Am 05.08.2007 um 08:31 schrieb julien:

If there are changes in the xml structure, file will result somewhat messy...

true, but what are the alternatives?

And what do we do with obsolete images? Some languages use the "en" image. If I
create a new 'en' image, I must give it another name if I keep the old one.

No, I do not see why we should preserve the old images. Just let the abandoned languages use new versions of the screenshot if they appear.

btw. which languages are we about to abandon anyway??

lexa

dialogs/brushes-dialog.xml is a good example for that kind of problems.

Julien

Axel Wernicke wrote:

Hi,

how about simply disabling the language in the root element of each .xml file? Additionally a comment could be put into the section history.

Greetings, lexA

Am 04.08.2007 um 21:37 schrieb julien:

What do we do with the text of abandoned languages in xml files? Do we delete it or mark it with ?
gimp-help has become so huge that deleting seems the best solution.

I started updating some files to en;fr: what must I do with obsolete texts in other languages : keep, mark them as deprecated or delete them?
Sometimes, the xml structure has to be change. In this case, deleting is
also the best solution, the file becomes messy otherwise.

Julien

julien
2007-08-05 15:12:48 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated

Axel Wernicke wrote:

If there are changes in the xml structure, file will result somewhat messy...

true, but what are the alternatives?

Keep as much as possible of the active languages. Delete obsolete text from them
if this text creates too many, time wasting, problems with a new XML structure.
Delete non active languages as determined by the last configure.ac : cs hr zh_CN no longer exist in it.

Julien

And what do we do with obsolete images? Some languages use the "en" image. If I
create a new 'en' image, I must give it another name if I keep the old one.

No, I do not see why we should preserve the old images. Just let the abandoned languages use new versions of the screenshot if they appear.

btw. which languages are we about to abandon anyway??

lexa

dialogs/brushes-dialog.xml is a good example for that kind of problems.

Julien

Axel Wernicke wrote:

Hi,

how about simply disabling the language in the root element of each .xml file? Additionally a comment could be put into the section history.

Greetings, lexA

Am 04.08.2007 um 21:37 schrieb julien:

What do we do with the text of abandoned languages in xml files? Do we delete it or mark it with ?
gimp-help has become so huge that deleting seems the best solution.

I started updating some files to en;fr: what must I do with obsolete texts in other languages : keep, mark them as deprecated or delete them?
Sometimes, the xml structure has to be change. In this case, deleting is
also the best solution, the file becomes messy otherwise.

Julien

Roman Joost
2007-08-06 13:27:58 UTC (almost 17 years ago)

Gimp-help-2.4 : abandoned languages, deprecated

On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 03:12:48PM +0200, julien wrote:

Axel Wernicke wrote:

If there are changes in the xml structure, file will result somewhat messy...

true, but what are the alternatives?

Keep as much as possible of the active languages. Delete obsolete text from them if this text creates too many, time wasting, problems with a new XML structure. Delete non active languages as determined by the last configure.ac : cs hr zh_CN no longer exist in it.

I'm not sure if we should really do that. I think most of the content of the (current) abandoned languages is still valid and in my opinion we should carry them further until GIMP 2.6.

If we remove most of the translations, authors have to start again translating the text and we have the work removing those languages.

In my opinion, we should ignore the 'abandoned' translations. It might makes sense to delete the translation if you make huge structural changes.

Greetings,