* Helen [01-06-07 18:56]:

Hi,

Hi

Is there a way to delete or rename a file in Gimp? I know I can save with a different name, but then I have two copies.

No

If not, is this an oversight?

I think not.

Will it be corrected?

I see no reason. Gimp is a graphic editor, not a file utility. In openSUSE you have konqueror, mc, krusader, and any number of other graphical choices to use beside most capable, the command line.

If you wish to create a work flow with that capability and utilize the gimp, set gimp as the default graphic editor for konqueror and work from konqueror instead of gimp.

gud luk,

From: Helen
Subject: [Gimp-user] delete a file
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:53:20 -0500

Hi,
Is there a way to delete or rename a file in Gimp? I know I can save with a different name, but then I have two copies.

If not, is this an oversight? Will it be corrected?

Thanks, Helen, using Gimp 2.2.10 on SuSE 10.2

Gimp does not provide this facility. (For that matter, neither does Adobe Photoshop or most office programs.) Use whatever file management methods your OS provides to delete unneeded files.

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Helen [01-06-07 18:56]:

Hi,

Hi

Is there a way to delete or rename a file in Gimp? I know I can save with a different name, but then I have two copies.

No

If not, is this an oversight?

I think not.

Will it be corrected?

I see no reason. Gimp is a graphic editor, not a file utility. In openSUSE you have konqueror, mc, krusader, and any number of other graphical choices to use beside most capable, the command line.

If you wish to create a work flow with that capability and utilize the gimp, set gimp as the default graphic editor for konqueror and work from konqueror instead of gimp.

gud luk,

DRIES:
'scuse me for butting in, but might the original post not be thinking in Windows Explorer terms? In Windows, the standard Save/Open file dialog box is also a mini-Explorer, in that one can rename/delete/copy files lik in normal Explorer. So the user would be working from with, say, PhotoShop, but still have the ability to re-organise files at the time of the File/Save operation.

In Linux, if one uses KDE, iirc there is some provison for this. I don't know of Gnome, though.

Hi,

On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 18:59 +0200, Dries Venter wrote:

'scuse me for butting in, but might the original post not be thinking in Windows Explorer terms? In Windows, the standard Save/Open file dialog box is also a mini-Explorer, in that one can rename/delete/copy files lik in normal Explorer. So the user would be working from with, say, PhotoShop, but still have the ability to re-organise files at the time of the File/Save operation.

In Linux, if one uses KDE, iirc there is some provison for this. I don't know of Gnome, though.

The overloaded file selection dialog on Windows is generally considered bad user interface design and fortunately GTK+ is not duplicating this mistake. The usability of the GTK+ file-chooser dialog can still be improved, but cerainly not by adding more stuff to it that is already handled by the native file manager.

Sven

It depends on a person's workflow when retouching photos. If gimp is used from scratch without preliminary viewing photos in some browser, or some kind of retouching is used to decide if the file worth to stay, it would be better to allow simple deletion of selected file within GTK file chooser. Otherwise user needs to switch to file manager to delete the file each time.

Sven Neumann wrote:

The overloaded file selection dialog on Windows is generally considered bad user interface design and fortunately GTK+ is not duplicating this mistake. The usability of the GTK+ file-chooser dialog can still be improved, but cerainly not by adding more stuff to it that is already handled by the native file manager.

Alexander Rabtchevich wrote:

It depends on a person's workflow when retouching photos. If gimp is used from scratch without preliminary viewing photos in some browser, or some kind of retouching is used to decide if the file worth to stay, it would be better to allow simple deletion of selected file within GTK file chooser.

If retouching is needed to decide whether a file should stay or not, then why should the user have to open the file selector to delete it? Wouldn't a "close image & delete image file from disk" entry in the menu be more convenient then?

This could be provided by a script; it should prompt the user for confirmation of this harmful action and should probably not be included by default - I can see the "data loss" bugs if otherwise.

HTH, Michael

Alexander Rabtchevich wrote:

It depends on a person's workflow when retouching photos. If gimp is used from scratch without preliminary viewing photos in some browser, or some kind of retouching is used to decide if the file worth to stay, it would be better to allow simple deletion of selected file within GTK file chooser. Otherwise user needs to switch to file manager to delete the file each time.

Sven Neumann wrote:

The overloaded file selection dialog on Windows is generally considered bad user interface design and fortunately GTK+ is not duplicating this mistake. The usability of the GTK+ file-chooser dialog can still be improved, but cerainly not by adding more stuff to it that is already handled by the native file manager.

In linux I use GQview for this purpose. I can browse files, delete, rename, etc. I can even open the image in gimp for editting. I don't know if I want GIMP to do this or not. Not the way I normally do things.

* Robin Laing [01-08-07 16:20]:
[...]

In linux I use GQview for this purpose. I can browse files, delete, rename, etc. I can even open the image in gimp for editting. I don't know if I want GIMP to do this or not. Not the way I normally do things.

I agree and have a similar work-flow. I shoot raw and convert with ufraw in batch (or sometimes bibblepro) with settings based of averages from previous experiences. Then I open with gqview and cull and also look for particular shots that would have been better converted with individual attention. I re-convert the individuals, then go thru them all in gqview, editing with gimp-remote when and where necessary.

I cannot remember ever looking for a delete function in gimp.

I use the "Save As" feature an awful lot. Am I missing something?

Bill Lee

Helen wrote:

With all due respect and admiration to the GIMP developers, I do believe that the inability to at least rename a file from the camera's default of dsc00405 to something meaningful is a serious impediment to convenient use of the GIMP.
Once I have made some color adjustments, and maybe some cropping, etc., I will decide whether I want to keep the photo or whether it is not worth keeping. It's a real inconvenience to have to go into Konqueror (e.g .) to do the simple task of renaming it.

I love the GIMP, I admire the GIMP community immensely, and am reluctant to find a fault -- but I do believe
that would be a worthwhile improvement.

Helen, using Gimp 2.2.10 on Linux SuSE 10

On 1/8/07, *Patrick Shanahan* > wrote:

* Robin Laing > [01-08-07 16:20]: [...]
> In linux I use GQview for this purpose. I can browse files, delete, > rename, etc. I can even open the image in gimp for editting. I > don't know if I want GIMP to do this or not. Not the way I normally > do things.

I agree and have a similar work-flow. I shoot raw and convert with ufraw in batch (or sometimes bibblepro) with settings based of averages from previous experiences. Then I open with gqview and cull and also look for particular shots that would have been better converted with individual attention. I re-convert the individuals, then go thru them all in gqview, editing with gimp-remote when and where necessary.

I cannot remember ever looking for a delete function in gimp.

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On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 08:11:08PM -0600, Bill Lee wrote:

I use the "Save As" feature an awful lot. Am I missing something?

Bill Lee

I don't believe you are. That is exactly the feature she wants.

My personal favorite is "Save a Copy", it allows me to make edits to a file, and save off snapshots in time of my edits while keeping the original filename for future edits.

Jeff

On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 03:30:19 +0100, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote:

I don't believe you are. That is exactly the feature she wants.

No, I don't think it is. 'Save as' does change the filename, but it saves a new file, leaving the old file on the disk. Sometimes that can be good, but other times you don't want that. You can obviously delete the old file in a file manager later, but that's not the point. It'd be convenient to be able to just do the entire process from within the Gimp. Just a checkbox in the 'Save as' dialog ('Delete old file') should do the job, I think. I know I'd find it useful.

~ Gerry

Hi,

On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 20:57 -0500, Helen wrote:

I love the GIMP, I admire the GIMP community immensely, and am reluctant to find a fault -- but I do believe that would be a worthwhile improvement.

I think I made it clear that such a change would have to happen in GTK+, since that's where the code for the file-chooser widget lives. Please stop this pointless discussion here. If you really want this feature, ask the GTK+ developers for it. But I am pretty sure that there is already a bug report for it.

Sven