On 11/26/05, Axel Wernicke wrote:

easily use to cut of the unwanted borders. To make clear that there is something cut of from the picture, the border should be look similar to a sawtooth - an irregular one - bit hard to describe, but I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.

Maybe scissors, not sawtooth?

Alexandre

On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 05:26:47PM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote:

Hi list,

I'm one of the members of the gimp documentation team and want to ask you for a favour. To reduce the size of all the screenshots to the clipping that is of relevance I'm in need of a template that I can easily use to cut of the unwanted borders. To make clear that there is something cut of from the picture, the border should be look similar to a sawtooth - an irregular one - bit hard to describe, but I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.

Any gfx wizards out there that want to support the GIMP manual?? Thats you chance!

i have successfully used the distress selection script-fu to make the edges of screenshots look like torn paper.

the sawtooth that you describe might be easier to achieve by making a path:

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i don't know if those points demonstrate what i am trying to say about using the pathtool, but the pathtool should be able to do to a gimp image what i am unable to show via email, and that is to connect those points with straight lines. that can be turned into two different things. a selection by which to make your image smaller with and the path can be exported to a simple SVG file and shared among all doc writers who need the same effect.

the svg can be transformed using all of the gimp's transformation tools and will fit any gimp image with only a little bit of work.

carol

Axel Wernicke wrote:

Hi list,

I'm one of the members of the gimp documentation team and want to ask you for a favour. To reduce the size of all the screenshots to the clipping that is of relevance I'm in need of a template that I can easily use to cut of the unwanted borders. To make clear that there is something cut of from the picture, the border should be look similar to a sawtooth - an irregular one - bit hard to describe, but I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.

Any gfx wizards out there that want to support the GIMP manual?? Thats you chance!

Greetings, lexA

--- Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen

Here's a ripped paper effect I did once. http://web.archive.org/web/20040402184426/http://bobkerbearings.com/

Kinda cool.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 10:57:52PM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote:

Hi Carol,

Any gfx wizards out there that want to support the GIMP manual?? Thats you chance!

i have successfully used the distress selection script-fu to make the edges of screenshots look like torn paper.

the sawtooth that you describe might be easier to achieve by making a path:

. .

. . .
. .
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looks like a view out of the window to me (its night in germany already) :)

if you squint, can you make them look like they are twinkling?

i don't know if those points demonstrate what i am trying to say about using the pathtool, but the pathtool should be able to do to a gimp image what i am unable to show via email, and that is to connect those points with straight lines. that can be turned into two different things. a selection by which to make your image smaller with and the path can be exported to a simple SVG file and shared among all doc writers who need the same effect.

I know I could spend some time to try to achieve something by myself, but since there are so many people in here that know how to be creative, would I like to concentrate on writing manual and making screenshots.
So if any of you could just make an .xcf with one long border in it as layer mask?

i am not certain what you are asking for here. so i tried to make what i had described earlier. i have a fresh build of gimp as of yesterday and the changes to the oilify filter should be there.

the 383KB xcf contains the path, the active selection and the mask making it one of the largest image files i have ever made considering the amount of information being exchanged.... http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/oilify-2.3.6.xcf

the path is there so you can export it and use it.

i feel like this is a quiz that i am not entirely prepared for....

please let me know if i can make any thing more specific for you.

carol

Please!

lexA

the svg can be transformed using all of the gimp's transformation tools
and will fit any gimp image with only a little bit of work.

carol

---
Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ pr?fen

On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 11:58:05PM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote:

Am 26.11.2005 um 23:48 schrieb Eric P:

Here's a ripped paper effect I did once. http://web.archive.org/web/20040402184426/http://bobkerbearings.com/

the image http://web.archive.org/web/20040426044754/ bobkerbearings.com/images/press_release.jpg is exactly what I'm looking for. Just a bit larger, without the dropshadow and as mask (b/w or grayscale image)

anybody able and willing to contribute ?

the other image with an additional layer containing a distorted selection and masked.
http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/oilify2-2.3.6.xcf 570KB now.

i guess i would be the distressed selection here....

carol

On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 12:26:20AM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote:

yeah, I like it! May I ask for another one? The aim of cutting screenshots apart is to save space. So I'd prefer the "height of the tooth" around 20px (yours where around 40px) and the width of the whole thing should be around 800px. I'd then trying to build an template image with four copies (rotatet by 90, 180 and 270 degrees) to be able to move them together as a frame around the screenshot having exactly the size I need from the screenshot.

i made one black and white layer that should be able to be used as the edge part of a layer mask. i am now going to try to be honest without making you angry or causing you to stop contributing to the documentation of gimp -- but if you are unable to use this image to make a mask, you might not be good for documenting gimp (yet).

this time, tiny-fu distort selection was used and i must say, tiny-fu feels "zippier" than script-fu.

http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/distorted-selection-mask.xcf, it is still in rgb. experts agree, indexed images are simply too complicated for the average user to be expected to work with. two paths have been included and i strongly suggest that you consider using the paths for your template. they work really nicely -- even gimps simple little SVG files.

Hope that was not too much of a puzzle - its late and my english does certainly not improve after 0:00am

wait until you count the years in which your english does not improve. i miss counting the hours....

carol

On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 09:26:36AM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote:

Am 27.11.2005 um 01:15 schrieb Carol Spears:

On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 12:26:20AM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote:

i made one black and white layer that should be able to be used as the edge part of a layer mask. i am now going to try to be honest without

thank you - that was what I was looking for

you don't seem to be angry or offended. thank you for the kindly response to what even i can see might be a very rude and hurtful assertation. thank you for your persistance and the sense of inner strength you share here.

making you angry or causing you to stop contributing to the documentation of gimp -- but if you are unable to use this image to make
a mask, you might not be good for documenting gimp (yet).

I agree to a certain degree. I now what to do with a b/w image to use it as mask. But my interest is more in enhancing photographs then in painting something by myself, so I'm not very used in creating something completely new by making a path or some strokes to an empty canvas :)

ah! you deny the fact that you are having ideas for clever image making! you had a vision of a nice way to make the documentation look less sterile and at the same time be better for the layout. the number of images i have painted is very low. the number of transformed photographs is a different matter. real life already puts objects in front of you with the dimensions and porportions already rendered. i think that having a camera and living on this earth will keep me enhancing photographs for a very long while. using paths and layers and all the other tools on photographs is an interesting artform whose time is only limited by the number of inspirational images and ideas that are in your life right now or the time needed to work with them.

I think even without beeing a wizard in making images one can do a good job in the documentation team. There are lots of technical and management issues to solve.
Btw. since you are obviously one of the wizards, you could have an eye on the manual and give us some wizardish advise ?

wizard is probably not a good word. i am not sure what a good word would be. gimp-1.0.2 with no access to a television or other media display until gimp2. when i actually had the opportunity to see how others manipulate images either via animation or film rendering, i was quite astonished. learning it while not seeing it being used is an issue. not always good and not always bad. i have a pile of accomplishments and mistakes that keep me wondering if a word should even be found to describe it. i guess that if life had a configure script, we would all be using it....

about documentation. i would like to apologize to all of the document writers for a few things. one, acceptable and complete documentation is like a sleeping potion to me. i have some very strong opinions about the software that is used to produce most of it and also have been very rude in that i have not read it. i don't know how to fix that. if i ingest some extra caffiene to combat the sleepy feeling i get while reading good documentation, i am too lively to start to read it.

how about this. i do have a little discipline i can access. if you suggest something that should read and comment on, i would actually have enough lively feelings to enable me to open them and read them. i am in a difficult and undefined very weird life for a long while. it would actually be nice to define some of these moments with a reading task like that....

is this the "give the has been" a reading assignment part? it certainly smells that way :)

carol