On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 08:52:24PM -0600, Jeff Avveduti wrote:

I have tried searching for this but I am not finding quite the answer I hunger for.
It is best to show you...
www.avveduti.com/ebay/logo.jpg

There is what I am wanting. To make a nice transparent logo in gimp. That was created in PS 7.
A nice bevel edge with ability to change the light direction and the amount of bevel..
I made the text go to 0 opaque and voula.. there it is.

What can I do in Gimp to acheive the same results?

GIMP does not consider that to be transparent. i am trying to figure out how PS7 uses the word transparent there.

this is simply the second tutorial on www.gimp.org: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/The_Basics/ and, gimp could do this before photoshop could. (photoshop 5 couldn't do this and that tutorial was written for gimp-1.0)

since it was so easy for you to make this, perhaps the photoshop developers read the gimp tutorial.

enjoy your gimp! carol

On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 08:52:24PM -0600, Jeff Avveduti wrote:

I have tried searching for this but I am not finding quite the answer I hunger for.
It is best to show you...
www.avveduti.com/ebay/logo.jpg

There is what I am wanting. To make a nice transparent logo in gimp. That was created in PS 7.
A nice bevel edge with ability to change the light direction and the amount of bevel..
I made the text go to 0 opaque and voula.. there it is.

Place your texture down (like the wavy red) Create a text layer (white for starters), and add your text Make sure the texture layer is selected, then go

Filters -> Map -> Bump Map

Play with all the fun knobs that do everything you asked for above.

Click okay when you are done, then make the text layer invisible (click the eye)

Jeff

On 11/8/05, Jeff Avveduti wrote:

On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 22:18 -0500, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 08:52:24PM -0600, Jeff Avveduti wrote:

I have tried searching for this but I am not finding quite the answer I hunger for.
It is best to show you...
www.avveduti.com/ebay/logo.jpg

There is what I am wanting. To make a nice transparent logo in gimp. That was created in PS 7.
A nice bevel edge with ability to change the light direction and the amount of bevel..
I made the text go to 0 opaque and voula.. there it is.

Place your texture down (like the wavy red) Create a text layer (white for starters), and add your text Make sure the texture layer is selected, then go

Filters -> Map -> Bump Map

Play with all the fun knobs that do everything you asked for above.

Click okay when you are done, then make the text layer invisible (click the eye)

Jeff

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. I opened a picture, add text [Avveduti Photography], Filters -> Map -> Bump Map, no matter I change, the text does not change. I move the window around to show the different letters of the text but nothing. I slide everything to the far right... nothing. I hit ok and hide the layer... nothing. What am I doing wrong?

I don't think the text is supposed to change, the background is. Then you should be able to "hide" the text somehow, by clicking the eye for the text layer in the layers box. Maybe you need to flatten it first?

Or maybe you should select the text layer, and not the background/pattern layer, or vice versa. *shrugs*

IIRC, there are also special fonts that fake this effect, if that is also your desire... although there should be a method like this with bump map that works.

--
~Mike
- Just my two cents
- No man is an island, and no man is unable.

michael chang wrote:

On 11/8/05, Jeff Avveduti wrote:

Make sure the texture layer is selected

You probably understood this, but it's a potential point of confusion, so let's try to make it totally clear: "selected" here means to make sure, before opening the Bump Map dialog, that the texture is the active layer in the main window (selected in the layers dialog).

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. I opened a picture, add text [Avveduti Photography], Filters -> Map -> Bump Map, no matter I change, the text does not change. I move the window around to show the different letters of the text but nothing. I slide everything to the far right... nothing. I hit ok and hide the layer... nothing. What am I doing wrong?

Maybe what you're missing is that, in the Bump Map dialog, you have to select the text layer as the Bump Map ... that option is in the upper right corner (at least for me on Linux ... I don't imagine it varies by platform, but it's conceivable).

I don't think the text is supposed to change, the background is. Then you should be able to "hide" the text somehow,

Yes, for the final image ... though if you start with the text below the texture, it won't be visible anyway.

the text layer in the layers box. Maybe you need to flatten it first?

Can't imagine how that would make a difference at this stage.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 09:46:31AM -0600, Jeff Avveduti wrote:

I could do that but that is just not efficient. If I have 30 photographs to add the logo to, I don't want to add in all of those steps every time. I tried saving it as a brush and it stinks. It does not show all of the logo. I guess I will be forced to stay with the standard for now. Perhaps one day Gimp will be a replacement for me... for now, I guess not.

you only need to make it once, unless you need thirty different logos.

did you try the second tutorial at www.gimp.org or did you only stick with getting instructions from this list?

GIMP is free for everyone. it however is not dumbed down for everyone.

did you try the Basic Logo or Beveled? you are getting answers from people who enjoy making graphics, not dummies.

carol

Hi Jeff,

That's the easy part - save your logo as a .xcf or .jpg and when you're editing a photo load up your logo image. Copy that image by hitting CTRL-c to copy, and then select your photo. CTRL-v to paste it.

Take a look at the Layers dialog (CTRL-L if it's not visible) and right click on the "Floating Selection (pasted layer)" layer and select "New Layer".

You should be able to drag the logo around your photo now using the "Move" tool (the one with the 4 arrows).

When saving as a jpeg, GIMP will ask you to merge the layers, that's perfectly normal.

That's probably something I should do with my own photos!

Hope that helps! Donncha.

Jeff Avveduti wrote:

On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 23:23 -0700, Matt Gushee wrote:

michael chang wrote:

On 11/8/05, Jeff Avveduti > wrote:

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Can't imagine how that would make a difference at this stage.

Ok, that did it... I was not selecting the texture layer first, then the bump map.
Very good. How can I save it out to be able to drop it over another picture? Brush? I need to be able to resize it, if nessary.

On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 03:37:34PM -0600, Jeff Avveduti wrote:

Yes but the background is white? Why is it so hard to save a transparent logo? It was transparent... but when saving it, the background is white.

Probably because you are saving it in a format that doesn't support transparency, like JPEG. If you do that, it asks you to flatten the image, and will fill in transparency with the background color (more or less). If you want to maintain transparency, keep the logo in xcf, or png (they both support 8-bit transparency)

Jeff

On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 03:37:34PM -0600, Jeff Avveduti wrote:

Yes but the background is white? Why is it so hard to save a transparent logo? It was transparent... but when saving it, the background is white.

two things. on this list we remove the portions that do not pretain to the exchange and we also reply under the relative portions. we wrote a web page, you can find it on the web site that describes what we consider to be etiquette -- not everyone agrees and we know this. if you have problems finding the web site or the page there, let me know so that we can make it easier to find.

the other thing is that jpegs cannot by definition contain transparency. they just were not made for that.

carol

On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 02:26:18PM -0800, Carol Spears wrote:

On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 03:37:34PM -0600, Jeff Avveduti wrote:

Yes but the background is white? Why is it so hard to save a transparent logo? It was transparent... but when saving it, the background is white.

two things. on this list we remove the portions that do not pretain to the exchange and we also reply under the relative portions. we wrote a web page, you can find it on the web site that describes what we consider to be etiquette -- not everyone agrees and we know this. if you have problems finding the web site or the page there, let me know so that we can make it easier to find.

the other thing is that jpegs cannot by definition contain transparency. they just were not made for that.

s/pretain/pertain/

sorry.

carol

On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 11:12:52PM -0600, Jeff Avveduti wrote:

Ok, I know this is silly... but I am a baby in Gimp. Please bear with me...and thanks to everyone who has been answering my question.

That was what I was doing so that fixes that issue. Now, the instructions given is using a texture background. How can I just make a logo with a transparent background and then save it as mentioned above?

New --- size, background transparent -- add text --- bump map--- now what? I don't see what I did?
I know this is silly but....

Okay, one step at a time.

New --- size, background transparent Text (Hello World) in white
Dialogs -> Layers -> New Layer
Filters -> Render -> Clouds -> Plasma In the Layer Dialog,
Click on the text layer (I move it to the top, too (up arrow on the bottom)) Filters -> Map -> Bump Map
Select the Plasma layer as the bumpmap layer play with the parameters
click okay
You can then (if you are done with it) delete the plasma layer (or just hide it)

I suspect that what may be tripping you up is the the GIMP doesn't get rid of the bumpmap layer after bump mapping, and it may be higher in the stack than your text. Perhaps just deleting or hiding that layer will give you what you want?

Jeff