cedric GEMY wrote:

No books about Gimp have been published since long a time.

Exactly. Where are all the English Gimp 2.x books? I think I've seen 2 French books so far, and that's it.

I count ~8 Gimp 1.x books on Amazon... I wonder if they didn't make any money.

It's a shame as the 2.x series just blows heaps and chunks over 1.x. And it's nicer to look at as well... would make for a nice looking (and useful) book.

My 2 bits.
Eric

On 9/4/05, Eric P wrote:

cedric GEMY wrote:

No books about Gimp have been published since long a time.

Exactly. Where are all the English Gimp 2.x books? I think I've seen 2 French books so far, and that's it.

Maybe the publishers think that GIMP 2.x books are redundant. Or maybe they're waiting for GIMP 2.4 or GIMP 3 before releasing more books. The development processes have been going quite quickly, whereas publishing a book takes quite some time (by the time books for 2.2 are completed, 2.4, with it's revamped menus will probably be out, maybe?).

michael chang wrote:

On 9/4/05, Eric P wrote:

cedric GEMY wrote:

No books about Gimp have been published since long a time.

Exactly. Where are all the English Gimp 2.x books? I think I've seen 2 French books so far, and that's it.

Maybe the publishers think that GIMP 2.x books are redundant. Or maybe they're waiting for GIMP 2.4 or GIMP 3 before releasing more books. The development processes have been going quite quickly, whereas publishing a book takes quite some time (by the time books for 2.2 are completed, 2.4, with it's revamped menus will probably be out, maybe?).

Just a thought...

Would "self publishing" be a way to it??

Using something like... http://www.lulu.com

Alan.

On 9/5/05, michael chang wrote:

Maybe the publishers think that GIMP 2.x books are redundant. Or maybe they're waiting for GIMP 2.4 or GIMP 3 before releasing more books. The development processes have been going quite quickly, whereas publishing a book takes quite some time (by the time books for 2.2 are completed, 2.4, with it's revamped menus will probably be out, maybe?).

Questions about where the Gimp will be in a year or two are probably very significant to publishers. For example, will GimpShop be updated to support 2.4, or not?

Von: michael chang

Maybe the publishers think that GIMP 2.x books are redundant. Or maybe they're waiting for GIMP 2.4 or GIMP 3 before releasing more books. The development processes have been going quite quickly, whereas publishing a book takes quite some time (by the time books for 2.2 are completed, 2.4, with it's revamped menus will probably be out, maybe?).

There are two books in german, convering GIMP 2.0, AFAIK. The situation you described has happened, they got somewhat outdated by the release of GIMP 2.2 (though one can also use good 1.x books with newer versions of GIMP).

If anyone knows of other GIMP 2 books, in any language, please post about them here. We can then add them to http://www.gimp.org/books/ - there is one 2.2 book mentioned there, btw.

HTH, Michael

There are two books in german, convering GIMP 2.0, AFAIK. The situation you described has happened, they got somewhat outdated by the release of GIMP 2.2 (though one can also use good 1.x books with newer versions of GIMP).

If anyone knows of other GIMP 2 books, in any language, please post about them here. We can then add them to http://www.gimp.org/books/ - there is one 2.2 book mentioned there, btw.

Maybe also it would be useful to know of pending projects to write new books. For example, I'm contemplating writing a book, both in French and in English, to be completed in about two years. If somebody has similar projects, it would be useful to know, in order not to waste efforts.

In my opinion, writing a full-fledged book about Gimp is a major effort for the author, and publishing it with proper color illustrations is a major effort for the publisher.

Eric P writes:

Exactly. Where are all the English Gimp 2.x books? I think I've seen 2 French books so far, and that's it.

I'm working on a GIMP book, for Apress. It won't be out until next year, unfortunately (delays in the publishing process): we're currently aiming at April 2006. It will cover 2.4 as well as 2.2.

...Akkana

On 9/5/05, Akkana Peck wrote:

Eric P writes:

Exactly. Where are all the English Gimp 2.x books? I think I've seen 2 French books so far, and that's it.

I'm working on a GIMP book, for Apress. It won't be out until next year, unfortunately (delays in the publishing process): we're currently aiming at April 2006. It will cover 2.4 as well as 2.2.

How can you do that? We're on 2.3.3... [or do you write about what's in CVS and hope that it doesn't change too much?]

michael chang wrote:

On 9/5/05, Akkana Peck wrote:

I'm working on a GIMP book, for Apress. It won't be out until next year, unfortunately (delays in the publishing process): we're currently aiming at April 2006. It will cover 2.4 as well as 2.2.

How can you do that? We're on 2.3.3... [or do you write about what's in CVS and hope that it doesn't change too much?]

Akkana has some control over how 2.4 will look like - for example, the menu structure :)

Michael

michael chang writes:

On 9/5/05, Akkana Peck wrote:

currently aiming at April 2006. It will cover 2.4 as well as 2.2.

How can you do that? We're on 2.3.3... [or do you write about what's in CVS and hope that it doesn't change too much?]

Mostly it involves trying to keep informed of changes, and being ready to do a lot of last-minute revisions. Several early chapters are already obsolete and will already have to be rewritten, but I knew that was a possibility going in.

The UI coverage may not be perfect (and of course, any program can change at any time -- there's never a guarantee that 2.4.1 won't change some UI detail compared to 2.4.0) but at least the book will cover the major UI and feature changes in 2.4.

...Akkana

On 9/5/05, Akkana Peck wrote:

michael chang writes:

On 9/5/05, Akkana Peck wrote:

currently aiming at April 2006. It will cover 2.4 as well as 2.2.

How can you do that? We're on 2.3.3... [or do you write about what's in CVS and hope that it doesn't change too much?]

Mostly it involves trying to keep informed of changes, and being ready to do a lot of last-minute revisions. Several early chapters are already obsolete and will already have to be rewritten, but I knew that was a possibility going in.

The UI coverage may not be perfect (and of course, any program can change at any time -- there's never a guarantee that 2.4.1 won't change some UI detail compared to 2.4.0) but at least the book will cover the major UI and feature changes in 2.4.

I suppose that's true -- I've read books that were on version 5 of Java, but were written with a Beta SDK and contained an old SDK (1.4 I think it was) on the CD in the back. *shrugs* [By the way, in this case, the versions were 1.4 -> 5, meaning the one that was released right after 1.4 was numbered 5. Really weird.]

Hi,

I just got the news of a book published here in Brazil.

It is called "GIMP - guia do usuário" (GIMP - user guide), and written by a brazillian. I've heard it was been written, but I do not know the author at all. As it has been written over the last months, I suppose it does cover GIMP 2.2 at least.

Ow..the book index is avilable in a PDF - and I can see a section named "welcome to the instalation of GIMP 2.2".

It is priced at R$68.00 (~ 25.00 Euro) and ahs over 300 pages.

The URL to the book is: http://www.novatec.com.br/livros/gimp/

Regards,

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