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| Next gotcha | Gene Heskett | 22 Jul 20:32 |
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| Next gotcha | Gene Heskett | 23 Jul 18:29 |
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Greetings all
I did, after 20 minutes of screwing around, finally get it to use a selected foreground color for the text.
But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at your service, NOT.
Anyway, the next problem is that I can't find a tool that will let me draw freehand lines so I can make a few arrows that point from a line of text to a feature in the image. Or maybe even draw a balloon around the text pointing at the feature.
Did this train lose its conductor a few stops back? Or how can I back it up to when it Just Worked(TM) quite a bit of the time?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all
I did, after 20 minutes of screwing around, finally get it to use a selected foreground color for the text.
But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at your service, NOT.
I don't even have the help files installed. 8-<
Look for the package for the help files in synaptic or from the command line and update that manually.
Anyway, the next problem is that I can't find a tool that will let me draw freehand lines so I can make a few arrows that point from a line of text to a feature in the image. Or maybe even draw a balloon around the text pointing at the feature.
There's a pen tool in there that I'm still trying to figure out how to use. It's for constructing "paths". Ignore it for now.
Airbrush, paintbrush, pencil, stamp, etc. Except, ...
Did this train lose its conductor a few stops back? Or how can I back it up to when it Just Worked(TM) quite a bit of the time?
I'm guessing what you've bumped into is the problem of selecting which layer you want to draw into. If you can bring up the widget that shows your layer list, it's a lot easier to navigate the layers. Otherwise, you have to kind of intuit which layer you are currently in and use the layer menu stuff to shift between them.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page
Joel Rees I'm imagining I'm a novelist: http://joel-rees-economics.blogspot.com/2016/06/econ101-novel-toc.html
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On 07/22/2016 10:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at your service, NOT.
Well, actually you are not up-to-date at all - this is because you choose to run the oldstable Debian release.
This also means you're missing most of the bug fixes that have happened in 2.8 since 2.8.2 has been released (minus some security fixes, maybe).
Did this train lose its conductor a few stops back? Or how can I back it up to when it Just Worked(TM) quite a bit of the time?
You should check whether you can and want to upgrade to a more current Debian release. Or, in train terms: check if you want to board a train that is actually going somewhere, instead of the museum train that's running around in circles on its closed track.
Regards, Michael GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD
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On Saturday 23 July 2016 05:41:29 Michael Schumacher wrote:
On 07/22/2016 10:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at your service, NOT.
Well, actually you are not up-to-date at all - this is because you choose to run the oldstable Debian release.
This also means you're missing most of the bug fixes that have happened in 2.8 since 2.8.2 has been released (minus some security fixes, maybe).
Did this train lose its conductor a few stops back? Or how can I back it up to when it Just Worked(TM) quite a bit of the time?
You should check whether you can and want to upgrade to a more current Debian release. Or, in train terms: check if you want to board a train that is actually going somewhere, instead of the museum train that's running around in circles on its closed track.
True, but I am stuck with a distribution that can run LinuxCNC, which has a need for a real time capable kernel. The guys are working on it but so far have not managed to get good enough IRQ response with kernels post 3.4.9-55 to run stepper motors direct, they have to be delegated to specialized control cards that run from $90 to 3 or 400, depending on the complexity of the machine being controlled.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page
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On 7/22/16, Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all
I did, after 20 minutes of screwing around, finally get it to use a selected foreground color for the text.
But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at your service, NOT.
Anyway, the next problem is that I can't find a tool that will let me draw freehand lines so I can make a few arrows that point from a line of text to a feature in the image. Or maybe even draw a balloon around the text pointing at the feature.
Hi.. CC'ing GIMP User, but I don't know if it will go through. So if this does go through.. Hey All, HUGE FAN for *MANY* years, #ThankYou! That said, I JUST yesterday stumbled on something that mostly accomplished this although it wasn't quite what I was looking for myself.
In the one toolbar that pops up with "CTRL-B (I think that's it, not near that laptop to verify), I double click on the pen icon which brings up selections of various pen types, shapes. For me in whatever version is in Sid Unstable, there's a horizontal line choice near the top of the pen shapes.
Once clicked, I was offered the option to change its horizontal thickness (not its length that I noticed, anyway). For what I was doing, I liked its effect because its final thickness varied with how you dragged it across screen. If that doesn't fit your need, maybe one of the other shapes while get you what you need.
That last little popup after double clicking the pen was a hit-and-miss find in last couple years. Kind of a hail Mary deal where that little window no longer was present where I remembered it used to just be there by magic ages ago. May be a preference setting I'm just missing. The hail Mary was I double clicked that icon as a desperate last play, and that window popped up = WOOHOO! :D
Good luck!
Cindy (Sue)
Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with duct tape *
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Gene Heskett shentel.net> writes:
I am stuck with a distribution that can run LinuxCNC,
I wondered, why wheezy as well, since it is oldstable & final security update was a month or so ago. I suppose that is a good reason.
You could chance downloading a more recent deb
https://packages.debian.org/sid/gimp-help-en about 27 MB
Which gives gimp-help 2.8.2 ie. the second release of 2.8 help, also most recent.
and in a terminal forcing an install
dpkg --force-all -i gimp-help-en_2.8.2-0.1_all.deb
might/might not work
A safer way is not a package, Gimp help in a PDF. Searchable and with an index.
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On Saturday 23 July 2016 08:34:28 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
On 7/22/16, Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all
I did, after 20 minutes of screwing around, finally get it to use a selected foreground color for the text.
But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at your service, NOT.
Anyway, the next problem is that I can't find a tool that will let me draw freehand lines so I can make a few arrows that point from a line of text to a feature in the image. Or maybe even draw a balloon around the text pointing at the feature.
Hi.. CC'ing GIMP User, but I don't know if it will go through. So if this does go through.. Hey All, HUGE FAN for *MANY* years, #ThankYou! That said, I JUST yesterday stumbled on something that mostly accomplished this although it wasn't quite what I was looking for myself.
In the one toolbar that pops up with "CTRL-B (I think that's it, not near that laptop to verify), I double click on the pen icon which brings up selections of various pen types, shapes. For me in whatever version is in Sid Unstable, there's a horizontal line choice near the top of the pen shapes.
Once clicked, I was offered the option to change its horizontal thickness (not its length that I noticed, anyway). For what I was doing, I liked its effect because its final thickness varied with how you dragged it across screen. If that doesn't fit your need, maybe one of the other shapes while get you what you need.
I tried that exact sequence, several times, but when I tried to click on the path points, I never did get the bar drawn because I could not find a way out out the click points mode, getting all sorts of zig-zag-zig lines that were never drawn, but could be undone.
I suspect there is a way, but with the docs so damned ancient, was it worth trying to read that lengthy tome from the top to find it. At my age, 81, I am conscious of makeing something of my remaining time, whether its another 25 years or another 5 minutes.
However, the arrow script someone sent me a link to (thank you someone!) had an option to delete the path when it was drawn, so with it checked, I could click the ending and starting points of the arrow, call the script and click OK, and it was done, so I could move to the next place I wanted an arrow, set the two points using the path tool, wash, rinse and repeat, Nice. I was able to finish the last of about 17 pix in half an hour this morning.
gimp should work that way "out of the box".
And I just found the 2.8.2 docs online, with the gimp browser. But it won't let me download them so I can update mine. That, seriously needs fixed. OTOH, firefox was also able to locate a tar.bz2 of 152 megs so its pouring in now. Done in fact. Now to see if it has an install script. This may take a few, so I'll snip and send
That last little popup after double clicking the pen was a hit-and-miss find in last couple years. Kind of a hail Mary deal where that little window no longer was present where I remembered it used to just be there by magic ages ago. May be a preference setting I'm just missing. The hail Mary was I double clicked that icon as a desperate last play, and that window popped up = WOOHOO! :D
Good luck!
Cindy (Sue)
It might be getting better Cindy, take care now.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page
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(Bringing it back to both lists so those who are telling Gene he should upgrade his debian can get a clue.)
On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 23 July 2016 05:41:29 Michael Schumacher wrote:
On 07/22/2016 10:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at your service, NOT.
Well, actually you are not up-to-date at all - this is because you choose to run the oldstable Debian release.
This also means you're missing most of the bug fixes that have happened in 2.8 since 2.8.2 has been released (minus some security fixes, maybe).
Did this train lose its conductor a few stops back? Or how can I back it up to when it Just Worked(TM) quite a bit of the time?
You should check whether you can and want to upgrade to a more current Debian release. Or, in train terms: check if you want to board a train that is actually going somewhere, instead of the museum train that's running around in circles on its closed track.
True, but I am stuck with a distribution that can run LinuxCNC, which has a need for a real time capable kernel. The guys are working on it but so far have not managed to get good enough IRQ response with kernels post 3.4.9-55 to run stepper motors direct, they have to be delegated to specialized control cards that run from $90 to 3 or 400, depending on the complexity of the machine being controlled.
(I suppose I should restrain myself, and it doesn't help Gene at all for me to say, to the pro-systemd sheeple, that this is what I was warning about. But this is what I was warning about.
Oh, for someone to foot me a few hundred million JPY to fork the kernel and strip it of all the damage done in trying to deal with that cabal.
Ah, but I'd prefer to write a new kernel from scratch and get rid of a whole lot of cruft. Linus has done well, and the bazaar has worked well, but the committee effects take their toll. Systemd was just the worst visible evidence of the committee effect to date. And I doubt anyone reading this except Gene understands my mumbling, so I really should restrain myself. :-< )
Joel Rees I'm imagining I'm a novelist: http://joel-rees-economics.blogspot.com/2016/06/econ101-novel-toc.html
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Von: "Joel Rees"
(Bringing it back to both lists so those who are telling Gene he should upgrade his debian can get a clue.)
On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
True, but I am stuck with a distribution that can run LinuxCNC, which has a need for a real time capable kernel. The guys are working on it but so far have not managed to get good enough IRQ response with kernels post 3.4.9-55 to run stepper motors direct, they have to be delegated to specialized control cards that run from $90 to 3 or 400, depending on the complexity of the machine being controlled.
Debian Wheezy should have the dependencies to build more recent releases of GIMP 2.8 as well. We keep them pretty much the same in the stable GIMP branches.
Regards, Michael GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD
