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Decompose Richard 13 Nov 03:15
  Decompose Carol Spears 13 Nov 03:58
Decompose Pasi Savolainen 13 Nov 11:21
Decompose Richard 21 Nov 16:54
  Decompose Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris 21 Nov 17:38
   Decompose Sven Neumann 21 Nov 18:45
200411212334.51066.gwidion@... 07 Oct 20:16
  Decompose Richard 22 Nov 02:54
   Decompose Sven Neumann 22 Nov 13:18
    Decompose Patrick Shanahan 22 Nov 14:33
    Decompose Richard 22 Nov 15:46
     Decompose Sven Neumann 22 Nov 22:58
Richard
2004-11-13 03:15:33 UTC (over 19 years ago)

Decompose

Okay, Thanks to all.

Filters->Colors->Decompose Found LAB, and did the delete A&B to get the Light Channel,

Q. Since the original image was a Color / Infrared shot (digital) would the best was to get all the detail of Gray/IR is using Decompose?

After applying auto levels, you have gray scale.

My understanding is that going to Gray scale by itself, you lose 16bit to 8bit. So, Decompose would be better?

Q. Next after having the L Layer, what is the best way off adjusting Shadows and Lights and Mid tones? So that be done before Decompose?

Thanks in Advance Richard

Gimp 2.0.5

Carol Spears
2004-11-13 03:58:43 UTC (over 19 years ago)

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On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 09:15:33PM -0500, Richard wrote:

Okay, Thanks to all.

Filters->Colors->Decompose Found LAB, and did the delete A&B to get the Light Channel,

Q. Since the original image was a Color / Infrared shot (digital) would the best was to get all the detail of Gray/IR is using Decompose?

After applying auto levels, you have gray scale.

that should not have happened. auto levels on a color image does not yeild a grayscale unless you started with one. i am fairly sure about this.

My understanding is that going to Gray scale by itself, you lose 16bit to 8bit.
So, Decompose would be better?

decompose gives a grayscale, it just gives a smarter one than desaturate or changing the mode alone.

carol gimp-1.0

Pasi Savolainen
2004-11-13 11:21:23 UTC (over 19 years ago)

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* Carol Spears :

On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 09:15:33PM -0500, Richard wrote:

Okay, Thanks to all.

Filters->Colors->Decompose Found LAB, and did the delete A&B to get the Light Channel,

Q. Since the original image was a Color / Infrared shot (digital) would the best was to get all the detail of Gray/IR is using Decompose?

After applying auto levels, you have gray scale.

that should not have happened. auto levels on a color image does not yeild a grayscale unless you started with one. i am fairly sure about this.

IR images may seem colored, but it's generally just colorcast, so autoleveling will remove that cast and it becomes gray.

My understanding is that going to Gray scale by itself, you lose 16bit to 8bit.
So, Decompose would be better?

GIMP-2 doesn't support 16bit in any other way but reading 16bit depth images (converted to 8bit right at the spot).

decompose gives a grayscale, it just gives a smarter one than desaturate or changing the mode alone.

Filters->Colors->Channel Mixer is generally best way to convert Color->Monochrome. AFAIR there's even some channel percentages floating on the net that're supposed to give you look of some certain brand of film.

Richard
2004-11-21 16:54:04 UTC (over 19 years ago)

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I notice when doing a decompose,
that you get 3 channels A&B&L...
However, there a issue.

First if the image is 300dpi x 300dpi then you delete A&B channel have only the L channel, you will notice that the image, is no longer 300dpi x 300dpi but,
72x72 dpi.

is my understanding correct on this? Richard

( Just trying to max out a color image into Grayscale.) if this being the case, then decompose is not the way to go, getting the most out of grayscale.

Regards- Richard

:-)

Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
2004-11-21 17:38:04 UTC (over 19 years ago)

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On Sunday 21 November 2004 13:54, Richard wrote:

I notice when doing a decompose,
that you get 3 channels A&B&L...
However, there a issue.

First if the image is 300dpi x 300dpi then you delete A&B channel have only the L channel, you will notice that the image, is no longer 300dpi x 300dpi but,
72x72 dpi.

Hi.
The pixel size of the image doesn't change - that means you still have the "L" value for each pixel in your original image. You can just change the DPI settings (in gimp 2.2 pre2 it is done in the new "print size" dialog.

I do agree that this behavior is buggy though.

is my understanding correct on this? Richard

( Just trying to max out a color image into Grayscale.) if this being the case, then decompose is not the way to go, getting the most out of grayscale.

Regards- Richard

:-)

Sven Neumann
2004-11-21 18:45:35 UTC (over 19 years ago)

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Hi,

"Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris" writes:

The pixel size of the image doesn't change - that means you still have the "L" value for each pixel in your original image. You can just change the DPI settings (in gimp 2.2 pre2 it is done in the new "print size" dialog.

I do agree that this behavior is buggy though.

I've fixed that in CVS now. But as you explained already, it doesn't really matter.

Sven

Richard
2004-11-22 02:54:37 UTC (over 19 years ago)

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Boy, I wish I could program, or compile my own code. I'm glad the bug was found, and now can be fix.

I'll sit and wait for a new 2.2 Mac OS X version ( hopeful before x-mas) to download it.

Thank You.
Richard

Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote:

On Sunday 21 November 2004 13:54, Richard wrote:

I notice when doing a decompose,
that you get 3 channels A&B&L...
However, there a issue.

First if the image is 300dpi x 300dpi then you delete A&B channel have only the L channel, you will notice that the image, is no longer 300dpi x 300dpi but,
72x72 dpi.

is my understanding correct on this? Richard

Hi ...
I had made a correction for this - if you are the one compiling your own gimp you might just add the fix from here:

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159010

( Just trying to max out a color image into Grayscale.) if this being the case, then decompose is not the way to go, getting the most out of grayscale.

Regards- Richard

:-)

Sven Neumann
2004-11-22 13:18:12 UTC (over 19 years ago)

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Hi,

Richard writes:

Boy, I wish I could program, or compile my own code. I'm glad the bug was found, and now can be fix.

I'll sit and wait for a new 2.2 Mac OS X version ( hopeful before x-mas) to download it.

Instead of sitting there and waiting you could compile a 2.2 version and make it available to others. Sitting and waiting is not how Free Software works.

Sven

Patrick Shanahan
2004-11-22 14:33:27 UTC (over 19 years ago)

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* Sven Neumann [11-22-04 07:21]:

Instead of sitting there and waiting you could compile a 2.2 version and make it available to others. Sitting and waiting is not how Free Software works.

He *said* that he wished he could but cannot because he does not know how. Many of the new users of gimp/linux are coming from the windoz platform and have no knowledge of *compiling* a program, just installing where and how Gates/Baldie have decided should happen.

Richard
2004-11-22 15:46:46 UTC (over 19 years ago)

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Hi Sven,
Please read again,

I WISH, I could, have try to do this before in the past, with 10.1 and 10.2 ( Mac OS X ) never could get a app, to compile, had dozen of error message, and dependences problems, and the people whom are on the Xcode list ( Apple's Developer Application Program)
which I do have installed, Like to FLAME people, and give no advice to newbies.

Regards-
Richard

Sven Neumann wrote:

Hi,

Richard writes:

Boy, I wish I could program, or compile my own code. I'm glad the bug was found, and now can be fix.

I'll sit and wait for a new 2.2 Mac OS X version ( hopeful before x-mas) to download it.

Instead of sitting there and waiting you could compile a 2.2 version and make it available to others. Sitting and waiting is not how Free Software works.

Sven

Sven Neumann
2004-11-22 22:58:05 UTC (over 19 years ago)

Decompose

Hi,

Richard writes:

Please read again,
I WISH, I could, have try to do this before in the past, with 10.1 and 10.2 ( Mac OS X ) never could get a app, to compile, had dozen of error message, and dependences problems

Well, I was trying to encourage you to try again. It isn't really rocket science to compile GIMP on Mac OS X and we could give you a helping hand.

Sven