GIMP to be removed from Ubuntu Lucid Lynx?

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/11/gimp-to-be-removed-lucid.html

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Nicolas Robidoux wrote:
>
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/11/gimp-to-be-removed-lucid.html

Did you see any links that prove this? Well, I didn't :) Neither most
relevant ubuntu mailing lists provide any background.

The idea has been floating around for a while, mind you.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoveGimp

Alexandre

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 21:38 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

> > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/11/gimp-to-be-removed-lucid.html

> Did you see any links that prove this? Well, I didn't :) Neither most
> relevant ubuntu mailing lists provide any background.

I have been in that session and can confirm it.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Thorsten Wilms wrote:

> I have been in that session and can confirm it.

OK, but what session? At UDS?

Alexandre

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
<alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Thorsten Wilms  wrote:
>
>> I have been in that session and can confirm it.
>
> OK, but what session? At UDS?

Yes, friend of mine was tehre, confirmed it too. (btw, it evenshowed
up in slashdot).

IMHO, stupidiest decision ever - they _want_ their users to be dumb
and continue that way. As for me, up to today I used to recomend
ubuntu to people I presented Free Software. (despite some ongoing
really great flaws, like translating the name of special user folders
such as Desktop and Documents). Now, with the promise of a GIMPless
Ubuntu, I will burn some other distro for people to taste Linux and
Free Software.



>
> Alexandre
>

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Joao S. O. Bueno <gwidion@mpc.com.br>wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
> <alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> >
> >> I have been in that session and can confirm it.
> >
> > OK, but what session? At UDS?
>
> Yes, friend of mine was tehre, confirmed it too. (btw, it evenshowed
> up in slashdot).
>
> IMHO, stupidiest decision ever - they _want_ their users to be dumb
> and continue that way. As for me, up to today I used to recomend
> ubuntu to people I presented Free Software. (despite some ongoing
> really great flaws, like translating the name of special user folders
> such as Desktop and Documents). Now, with the promise of a GIMPless
> Ubuntu, I will burn some other distro for people to taste Linux and
> Free Software.
>

Give a try to Debian, the netinst version
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
You need a decent Internet connection, but the available room on a CD is no
longer a problem, and GIMP is present, of course.
After all, Ubuntu is based on Debian, why not stick to the original, rather
than to deviant copy?

Joao wrote:

> Yes, friend of mine was tehre, confirmed it too. (btw, it evenshowed
> up in slashdot).
>
> IMHO, stupidiest decision ever - they _want_ their users to be dumb
> and continue that way.

well guys, GIMP has the vision to be a high-end/expert application,
so we should not be amazed that a general OS distribution drops us off
the finite-space disk.

I see it as ubuntu giving us the respect we deserve.

--ps

founder + principal interaction architect
man + machine interface works

http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture

On 11/20/09, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

> IMHO, stupidiest decision ever - they _want_ their users to be dumb
> and continue that way. As for me, up to today I used to recomend
> ubuntu to people I presented Free Software. (despite some ongoing
> really great flaws, like translating the name of special user folders
> such as Desktop and Documents). Now, with the promise of a GIMPless
> Ubuntu, I will burn some other distro for people to taste Linux and
> Free Software.

Joao,

Canonical also never shipped Ubuntu with Ardour or Cinelerra or
Blender -- all apps aimed at professionals. People who need serious
software for media production have choice, be it 64studio or Ubuntu
Studio or half a dozen of other distributions.

What most Linux users really need is something like Picasa or iPhoto
-- to easily import a bunch of pics, color-correct them and publish
online. Using GIMP for fixing red-eyes or straightening horizon is an
overkill. So if this choice will motivate someone to improve F-Spot,
Solang, Shotwell or IntiPinku, who is to lose? :)

Alexandre

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 13:22 -0500, Nicolas Robidoux wrote:
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/11/gimp-to-be-removed-lucid.html

That is pretty much in-line with our product vision. GIMP is a high-end
application for professionals. It is not the tool that you would advise
every user to use for their casual photo editing. And as far as I
understand this, it's not that GIMP would not be available for Ubuntu
users. It's simply not installed by default.


Sven