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Dialogs always on top Andres Montiel 22 Jan 02:40
Dialogs always on top Olivier Ripoll 22 Jan 09:49
  Dialogs always on top Andres Montiel 22 Jan 17:58
Dialogs always on top Olivier Ripoll 22 Jan 19:00
  Dialogs always on top Andres Montiel 23 Jan 06:58
Dialogs always on top Ulf Rompe 23 Jan 11:52
  Dialogs always on top Andres Montiel 23 Jan 20:55
Andres Montiel
2003-01-22 02:40:45 UTC (about 21 years ago)

Dialogs always on top

Is it possible to have the Dialogs always on top? I scrounged through the Preferences but could not find such an option. Is it possible?

- Andres Montiel

Olivier Ripoll
2003-01-22 09:49:13 UTC (about 21 years ago)

Dialogs always on top

Andres Montiel wrote:

Is it possible to have the Dialogs always on top? I scrounged through the Preferences but could not find such an option. Is it possible?

- Andres Montiel

This is a window manager setting. On E for instance, right click onto the title bar and then you can access most of the window settings like "always on top" then you just tell E to "remember" this setting. For WM, it is described here in the attributes section: http://main.linuxfocus.org/~georges.t/win.html I don't know for blackbox or Kwin, but am 100% sure they can do this, as it is a standard functionality of window managers.

Regards,

Olivier.

Andres Montiel
2003-01-22 17:58:58 UTC (about 21 years ago)

Dialogs always on top

Thanks for the info. I shall look for a HOWTO for Gnome. :)

On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 16:49, Olivier Ripoll wrote:

This is a window manager setting. On E for instance, right click onto the title bar and then you can access most of the window settings like "always on top" then you just tell E to "remember" this setting. For WM, it is described here in the attributes section: http://main.linuxfocus.org/~georges.t/win.html I don't know for blackbox or Kwin, but am 100% sure they can do this, as it is a standard functionality of window managers.

Regards,

Olivier.

Olivier Ripoll
2003-01-22 19:00:14 UTC (about 21 years ago)

Dialogs always on top

Andres Montiel wrote:

Thanks for the info. I shall look for a HOWTO for Gnome. :)

Well, this will depend on which WM you are using in Gnome. Gnome 2.0 was using Sawfish as default, but some distribution (RedHat and Mandrake for instance) replaced it by Metacity which is the new default (gnome 2.2). Unfortunately, it seems none have this basic feature, but I could be wrong (it's just by searching with google).

good luck.

By the way, this is http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79031

Regards,

Olivier.

I just have had a possible idea to implement this easily maybe, so I'll shout it here, hoping that Sven or any other developer who really know coding may read and judge if it could work. ;)

Dumb idea : xmms, the panels and a few others applications do use window manager hints to stay always on top. Couldn't there be an _optional_ possibility that the toolbox window did use this kind of hint to tell the window manager that it wants to stay always on top?

for instance _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE as defined in http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/wm-spec/1.3/html/x231.html

Andres Montiel
2003-01-23 06:58:32 UTC (about 21 years ago)

Dialogs always on top

On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 02:00, Olivier Ripoll wrote:

Well, this will depend on which WM you are using in Gnome. Gnome 2.0 was using Sawfish as default, but some distribution (RedHat and Mandrake for instance) replaced it by Metacity which is the new default (gnome 2.2). Unfortunately, it seems none have this basic feature, but I could be wrong (it's just by searching with google).

good luck.

I am using RedHat 8.0. I tried installing the latest Metacity (2.4.21) from source. But still, alas, no option via right clicks to stick the panel "always on top".

By the way, this is
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79031

Regards,

Olivier.

I just have had a possible idea to implement this easily maybe, so I'll shout it here, hoping that Sven or any other developer who really know coding may read and judge if it could work. ;)

That is a good idea. Perhaps in the future it could be implemented? :)

- Andres Montiel

Dumb idea :
xmms, the panels and a few others applications do use window manager hints to stay always on top. Couldn't there be an _optional_ possibility that the toolbox window did use this kind of hint to tell the window manager that it wants to stay always on top?

for instance _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE as defined in http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/wm-spec/1.3/html/x231.html

Ulf Rompe
2003-01-23 11:52:15 UTC (about 21 years ago)

Dialogs always on top

Olivier Ripoll writes:

Gnome 2.0 was using Sawfish as default, but some distribution (RedHat and Mandrake for instance) replaced it by Metacity which is the new default (gnome 2.2). Unfortunately, it seems none have this basic feature, but I could be wrong

Older versions of Sawfish had a direct menu option for this. In newer versions this feature was replaced by the configurable "window conditions". That's a mighty feature: You can for example say that all windows titled XYZ should have the one or another attribute like "always on top" or "sticky". Regexps are allowed in window names and "catching" is also supported.

[x] ulf

Andres Montiel
2003-01-23 20:55:14 UTC (about 21 years ago)

Dialogs always on top

On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 18:52, Ulf Rompe wrote:

Older versions of Sawfish had a direct menu option for this. In newer versions this feature was replaced by the configurable "window conditions". That's a mighty feature: You can for example say that all windows titled XYZ should have the one or another attribute like "always on top" or "sticky". Regexps are allowed in window names and "catching" is also supported.

Perhaps someone knows how to do this for Metacity? :) I'm using RedHat 8.0. :)