Ubuntu 10.04: GIMP will be "Professional Software"

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http://www.gimpusers.de/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html 1 rating(s) with 5.0 of 5 stars in average

1. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Fri 27 Nov 2009 03:41:10 AM CET Dan, 27 Nov 2009 03:41 AM

   It's like giving GIMP the respect it deserves. More than that, to me it gives me that feeling that i'm using something that "usual" people don't use. The feeling of professional software, you got to download it and install it, to have it.

2. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Fri 27 Nov 2009 04:11:34 AM CET mamboze, 27 Nov 2009 04:11 AM

   I agree with this. Congrats to the GIMP developers, you guys have done a fantastic job. You have demonstrated very clearly that even in the hi-tech area of graphics apps, open source software can equal and, IMO, exceed the best efforts of commercial offerings (read Photoshop).
   
   Go GIMP, it's the best.

3. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Fri 27 Nov 2009 06:51:46 AM CET Scott, 27 Nov 2009 06:51 AM

   How long will it be before OpenOffice.org is also classified "professional" and not installed, either? Evolution clearly tries to match the features of the professional Outlook client.
   
   Let's just install a bare bones text editor, a crappy image editor with few features, a stripped-down word processor, no spreadsheet (that would be too professional), and a simple web browser.
   
   They seem to be trying to match the mediocrity of Windows here. I could understand if it was just about the disk space issue. But they could just as easily create a second version of the distribution on DVD.
   
   I think, though, that if that is not going to happen, and I don't think it will, that a good solution to not including it at all, and giving newcomers the impression that Linux has nothing comparable to Photoshop, would be to place a menu item in the Graphics sub-menu that offers to install GIMP, and Scribus, and Inkscape, and so on. It wouldn't take much space, and it would advertise the fact that there is some pretty awesome software available that does what you happen to looking for right now. Just click here to install it.

4. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Fri 27 Nov 2009 01:13:17 PM CET redforce, 27 Nov 2009 01:13 PM

   Scott: Do you mean this DVD? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/release/

5. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Sat 28 Nov 2009 02:38:14 AM CET Scott, 28 Nov 2009 02:38 AM

   No. I don\'t mean that DVD. I mean one that includes more software, not just more language packs. As it says on Ubuntu\'s website concerning the DVD: \"Don\'t be confused, even though DVDs can hold far more data than the typical Ubuntu CD, the main benefit of the DVD downloads is to get access to all of the available language packs.\"

6. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Sat 28 Nov 2009 03:31:16 PM CET toni, 28 Nov 2009 03:31 PM

   thanks the information, you are very good blog

7. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Thu 03 Dec 2009 04:13:35 PM CET sgdfg, 03 Dec 2009 04:13 PM

   They should remove the Whole mono-stack instead of the Gimp.
   
   Ubuntu is being transformed into something.
   (What? Don\'t know what it will become.)
   
   But the thing is, Gimp is a very good much-used application. A lot of people edit pictures and don\'t want to have a paint clone on Linux.
   Only they will not search for it as most experienced users do.
   
   Further, Mono-proponents are trying to replace Gimp with F-spot, which frankly has a lot of downsides. It\'s only for placing hooks for .NET in a couple of years.
   
   People, listen to yourself talking about \'Elite\' software, it\'s being put away and your happy with it? You\'re being manipulated with the Elite thought. Know what stuff are being put further? Garbage!!

8. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Thu 03 Dec 2009 04:17:12 PM CET dhdfh, 03 Dec 2009 04:17 PM

   Quote:
   Dan, 27 Nov 2009 03:41 AM
   
   It\'s like giving GIMP the respect it deserves. More than that, to me it gives me that feeling that i\'m using something that \"usual\" people don\'t use. The feeling of professional software, you got to download it and install it, to have it.
   
   My Reaction:
   And paid?
   
   Let\'s not try to trick ourselves.
   The only difference in using something that normal people don\'t use is how you use it.
   
   For professional results you need:
   professional software + professional user.
   
   It\'s the second ingredient that should make your neck thick, not the first.

9. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Fri 04 Dec 2009 03:03:53 PM CET 23dornot23d, 04 Dec 2009 03:03 PM

   Ubuntu 10.04: GIMP will be \"Professional Software\"
   
   so they decide to drop it ?
   
   But create a thread called ..... Bye Bye Gimp ....
   
   with the chance to vote it off using these two lines
   
   Yes, I agree with developers that Gimp is too complicated 258 42.64%
   No, I think this is major step back for Ubuntu. 347 57.36%
   
   So
   
   .... they are dropping it beacause it is becoming too complicated ..... just does not ring true ...
   
   I never saw the word Professional Software used once on the UBUNTU site ......
   
   and the voting .... people still believe its a bad thing to remove GIMP ....
   
   Good publicity would be UBUNTU 10.04 thinks that GIMP is such Professional software they are making it a showcase for their NEW RELEASE ....
   
   But no ... they are replacing it with F-SPOT ....

10. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Fri 04 Dec 2009 03:32:17 PM CET redforce, 04 Dec 2009 03:32 PM

    Who said anything about \"dropping\"? Dropping means \"removing from the repositories\" from me. I don\'t think Ubuntu is the same as the packages on the Ubuntu Live CD but rather the repositories.
    
    By the way, I know several people who use Ubuntu Linux and ONE of them uses GIMP - and he\'s a graphics professional and knows how to install his software (not saying that the one command or click in the Software Center would be so complicated).

11. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Sat 02 Jan 2010 09:18:05 AM CET Terry Pinfold, 02 Jan 2010 09:18 AM

    Keep GIMP. I was blown away with how complete Unbuntu was compared to Windows. Open office and Gimp blow Windoes out of the water for $0. The issue of playing video files was a put off which ultimately pushed me back to Windows XP and 7.

12. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Sun 10 Jan 2010 12:57:27 PM CET nachturnal, 10 Jan 2010 12:57 PM

    @Terry Pinfold: What video-playing issues? I've had Ubuntu for a few months and have never, never had any issues with playing videos. Unless you count perpetually accidentally closing VLC.

13. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Fri 15 Jan 2010 06:16:33 PM CET joeyjuviyani, 15 Jan 2010 06:16 PM

    The Ubuntu 10.04 release is near. Recently the Ubuntu 10.04 final version was made avaialble to testers for testing.It is also known as Lucid Lynx. This technology supports kernel mode-setting for Linux kernel image boot more fluid between the boot and start X server. I am a Linux- Ubuntu user and I am very much eager to get the Ubuntu 10.04. I got the information about this from:
    http://www.techarena.in/news/27123-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx-made-available-testers.htm

14. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Sun 31 Jan 2010 09:37:46 PM CET Salem, 31 Jan 2010 09:37 PM

    Mandriva come with inkscape by default and i see that as good decision from the developers .

15. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Mon 15 Feb 2010 05:45:25 AM CET JUstme, 15 Feb 2010 05:45 AM

    Whatever. GIMP, Inkscape, Blender etc NEED to be default applications.
    
    If you got it, flaunt it. Simple as that. Include the best of the best.

16. http://www.gimpusers.com/news/2009-11-27/ubuntu-lucid-lynx-gimp-no-longer-by-default.html Fri 19 Feb 2010 06:28:49 PM CET Mészáros Csaba, 19 Feb 2010 06:28 PM

    PROFESSIONAL? No, Gimp isn't a professional image processing app. It lacks at least two features for that title:
    1. CMYK support. Not with plugins, but built-in. Unless that a decent photo processer will never count it as serious application.
    2. On-canvas filter preview. It's VEEERY boring when you have to change some values and the do/undo backtracking process till you get the desired result.
    
    Gimp is excellent, and with this Single-window mode they'll leave behind the era of primitivism of floating windows. Still, it needs a lot to be consider as 'professional'.
    
    Ubuntu: I don't know why they are still keep up with 1 CD size, instead of having a full Linux experience with more apps. Ubuntu Studio rescues them, hovever.