Am 15.04.12 21:39, schrieb Bernhard Stockmann:

hey everyone!

I made a startup splash screen in GIMP for GIMP 2.8. also filed a bug on it here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674154

If you like it you can use it!

Is there another way to submit splash screens? Or are there any official guidelines?

+10

Not bad. The dark line going under wilber feels a little bit funny, but I like it in concept. Better than mine in the RC :P

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:32 AM, gfxuser wrote:

Am 15.04.12 21:39, schrieb Bernhard Stockmann:

hey everyone!

I made a startup splash screen in GIMP for GIMP 2.8. also filed a bug on it here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674154

If you like it you can use it!

Is there another way to submit splash screens? Or are there any official guidelines?

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Den 15 april 2012 21:39 skrev Bernhard Stockmann :

hey everyone!

I made a startup splash screen in GIMP for GIMP 2.8. also filed a bug on it here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674154

If you like it you can use it!

I like it too, except the white line that goes right across Wilber from the bottom left to the upper right. Could you make a new version with that fixed perhaps?

/ Martin

Not
bad.

This
is how I would improve it.
The
“GIMP” is the brand. It should dominate the artwork. (Note: Splash is a brand image. It is not a fine arts work that we can stare for hours. It is on the screen for a short period of time. Therefore it should be simple, otherwise, its massage gets lost) The release number is unimportant. A couple months and it will be 3.00 and so on and so forth. Therefore, the brand name (Gimp) should be bigger, it should dominate the artwork and the release number waaaay smaller. Put somewhere at the end of the Gimp text. Centering everything is boring. Also ask yourself, does the white background add anything to the artwork; wouldn't it be better without that?

Every artwork (doesn't matter fine arts or design arts) has a strong hierarchical structure. No element should be there without function. Every element should support the main concept, otherwise the elements start competing for attention and the message gets lost.

Jmak

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Subject: [Gimp-developer] gimp 2.8 splash screen suggestion
 
hey everyone!

I made a startup splash screen in GIMP for GIMP 2.8. also filed a bug on it here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674154

If you like it you can use it!

Is there another way to submit splash screens? Or are there any official guidelines?

-- best regards,
bernhard

Den 16 april 2012 13:52 skrev Bernhard Stockmann :

I've made a version with Wilber above the lines. Hope you like it more now ;)
see here:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674154

I like it more, but I still think the white diagonal line is too distracting

/ Martin

Martin Nordholts (enselic@gmail.com) wrote:

I like it more, but I still think the white diagonal line is too distracting

I am not a fan of this kind of nit-picking. While we have certain requirements for the splash (e.g. to allow for the startup texts etc.) we should try to avoid pleasing everyone with the design, this in general doesn't help, since it dilutes the original artwork.

In particular I prefer the original version of the splash. It has more of an edge and I like the stronger contrast better.

Bye, Simon

Is it OK if I chime in?

Yes the diagonal lines behind Wilber and across the largest brush are distracting, but I LOVE the overall concept. It's fresh, clean, professional and colorful. The use of a bokeh layer is fantastic and well executed.
The new layer order is much better and shows Wilber properly. The first thing my eye goes to is the 2.8. To me, it carries the same visual weight as Wilber. I am not sure that the version number is the primary focus of a splash screen. Is there another creative element you might replace that with? While we are all celebrating this much anticipated release, the version number is not critically important. Could we completely remove the version number from the splash or at least make it much much smaller? Say 12 to 14 px high and subtle. Or, as an idea that is a bit outside the box. spell it out i.e.

V e r s i o n Two Point Eight.

This could still fit in the bottom of your vertical banner as your third element, yet it would minimize the visual weight.

Also, the white margins on top and bottom seem unnecessary and I find them distracting, especially the bottom. It's quite a bit of empty space and appears unfinished because it carries so much visual weight yet does not serve an immediate purpose that I can see.

Fantastic work so far. Perhaps Gimp's best splash to date!

John H

On Tue 17 Apr 2012 12:17:44 AM MDT, Martin Nordholts wrote:

Den 16 april 2012 13:52 skrev Bernhard Stockmann :

I've made a version with Wilber above the lines. Hope you like it more now ;)
see here:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674154

I like it more, but I still think the white diagonal line is too distracting

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On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Simon Budig wrote:

Martin Nordholts (enselic@gmail.com) wrote:

I like it more, but I still think the white diagonal line is too distracting

I am not a fan of this kind of nit-picking. While we have certain requirements for the splash (e.g. to allow for the startup texts etc.) we should try to avoid pleasing everyone with the design, this in general doesn't help, since it dilutes the original artwork.

Heh. I would not complain about that line so much, if it wasnt "crossing out" the label along with the wilber. I like the original translucent wilber more. I dont like the crossing out effect that sharp line gives.

On 17/04/2012 15:13, John Harris wrote:

V e r s i o n
Two Point Eight.

This could still fit in the bottom of your vertical banner as your third element, yet it would minimize the visual weight.

Please god no. That sounds seriously cheesy. :-)

Hi.
I've been following this discussion, and I'd like to propose an alternative based on this proposal.
I really like the original photo and I think the manipulation doesn't do justice to it, so what about using the original photo instead? It's very nice, has a pretty balanced composition and more or less illustrates one of the features that have been enhanced in 2.8. So I created these splashes for your consideration. I have made two designs: One with the shaded wilber and other using a flat version of wilber (the same used in the empty window).

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V1.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V2.png

There's an extra sample with a semitransparent black stripe at the bottom, intended to contain the splash messages. This is optional, since text is readable on the photographic background, so there isn't really need to use it.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V1b.png

Regarding the typefaces, I used Dave Crossland's Cantarell as placeholder, since it's the default font in Gnome3, I think it should blend pretty good.
However, I've heard that some people is working on a new wordmark for GIMP, so this font choice might be only temporary if the new logo is ready and agreed before the release of 2.8

Kind regards, Gez.

After some tweaking...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V3.png

I like this one better.

Gez.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:38 AM, gespertino wrote:

After some tweaking...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V3.png

Just remove the whole "GNU blah" stuff :)

Do you really like several lines of centered text? :)

Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

2012/4/17 Alexandre Prokoudine :

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:38 AM, gespertino wrote:

After some tweaking...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V3.png

Just remove the whole "GNU blah" stuff :)

Do you really like several lines of centered text? :)

What lines? :-p
You're right. It sucked. Just tried to do something to avoid the usual name bashing, but I agree that it doesn't work in two lines.

G.

Looking at Gespertino's and Berhard's versions side by side, and Bernhard's certainly looks more creative. Gespertino's has the look of a straight up layout. While balanced, it feels a bit lacking in "juice" and looks to me to be very "business graphic"

Bernhard's layout speaks to pushing the envelope and deeper creative expressions.

Somewhere in the middle ground perhaps?

On 04/17/2012 04:16 PM, gespertino@gmail.com wrote:

2012/4/17 Alexandre Prokoudine :

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:38 AM, gespertino wrote:

After some tweaking...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V3.png

Just remove the whole "GNU blah" stuff :)

Do you really like several lines of centered text? :)

What lines? :-p
You're right. It sucked. Just tried to do something to avoid the usual name bashing, but I agree that it doesn't work in two lines.

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On 12-04-17 05:38 PM, gespertino@gmail.com wrote:

After some tweaking...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V3.png

If a person was to get picky they could point out that GIMP has more than paint brushes in its toolbox. ;-)

Looks good. Nice and colourful.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Kevin Cozens wrote:

On 12-04-17 05:38 PM, gespertino@gmail.com wrote:

After some tweaking...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V3.png

If a person was to get picky they could point out that GIMP has more than paint brushes in its toolbox. ;-)

Personally I wish we had just _one_ splash screen where Wilber goes berserk, bites the brush in half and takes all GIMP haters to cleaners, en masse. Just for fun.

Alas, this would not make us look good.

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On 12-04-17 07:49 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

Personally I wish we had just _one_ splash screen where Wilber goes berserk, bites the brush in half and takes all GIMP haters to cleaners, en masse. Just for fun.

Sounds like a great idea for a splash screen of an upcoming development version, post 2.8.

On 04/17/2012 04:49 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Kevin Cozens wrote:

On 12-04-17 05:38 PM, gespertino@gmail.com wrote:

After some tweaking...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V3.png

If a person was to get picky they could point out that GIMP has more than paint brushes in its toolbox. ;-)

Personally I wish we had just _one_ splash screen where Wilber goes berserk, bites the brush in half and takes all GIMP haters to cleaners, en masse. Just for fun.

Alas, this would not make us look good.

I'm with you on that one, Alexandre - - but on the other side GIMP is SO _ O _ O much fun

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In general I like the inital proposal more, if there wasnt that distracting strikethrough line, as is gespertino's v3 wins my favor.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Burnie West wrote:

On 04/17/2012 04:49 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Kevin Cozens wrote:

On 12-04-17 05:38 PM, gespertino@gmail.com wrote:

After some tweaking...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V3.png

If a person was to get picky they could point out that GIMP has more than paint brushes in its toolbox. ;-)

Personally I wish we had just _one_ splash screen where Wilber goes berserk, bites the brush in half and takes all GIMP haters to cleaners, en masse. Just for fun.

Alas, this would not make us look good.

I'm with you on that one, Alexandre - - but on the other side GIMP is SO _ O _ O much fun

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While this is certainly true, GIMP, along with PS and others like them, fall into a class called "Paint Programs". This may have been the artist's inspiration.

On 04/17/2012 05:23 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:

On 12-04-17 05:38 PM, gespertino@gmail.com wrote:

After some tweaking...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V3.png

If a person was to get picky they could point out that GIMP has more than paint brushes in its toolbox. ;-)

Looks good. Nice and colourful.

yes it was and I'm definitely someone that enjoys colorful things :) but I like the other proposal too, although I find it a bit too simple for a splash screen. nevertheless its looking very serious. good work!

 I finally uploaded 2 more versions with a blurred line and without the line. however I like my initial version little more. it gives some special to it :) what do you think? see bug report for files

--  Bernhard

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While this is certainly true, GIMP, along with PS and others like them, fall into a class called "Paint Programs".  This may have been the artist's inspiration.

On 04/17/2012 05:23 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote: On 12-04-17 05:38 PM, gespertino@gmail.com wrote: After some tweaking...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V3.png

If a person was to get picky they could point out that GIMP has more than paint brushes in its toolbox.  ;-)

Looks good. Nice and colourful.

2012/4/25 Devvv :

yes it was and I'm definitely someone that enjoys colorful things :) but I like the other proposal too, although I find it a bit too simple for a splash screen. nevertheless its looking very serious. good work!

I finally uploaded 2 more versions with a blurred line and without the line. however I like my initial version little more. it gives some special to it :) what do you think? see bug report for files

Much better. Personally I like the second more. It's colorful but it doesn't feel overdone and it definitely left behind the "predefined filter" look it had in its first incarnation. I'm not sure about the typesetting. 2.8 it's sill too large. I also wonder if the solid white band at the bottom will align ok with the splash messages.

I did a quick mockup cloning and blurring the background and making the band semi-transparent. Also changed the typesetting of the logo and made some minor adjustments.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255376/gimp/gimp-splash_gez-V4b.png

I don't have the original file so probably quality isn't great, but just to have an idea of what I'm talking about.

What do you think?

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I like it!
I'd move the band with the logo to the left a little, maybe 10 or 15 px, to compensate the space around it. It feels like too close to the brushes.
I think it looks pretty good.
It's true that contrast is a little week in type, but it's visible and legible. Regarding the typeface, I chose Cantarell because it's free and it's the default font in Gnome. What font did you use? Is it free? (I'm asking because using a font that isn't free could be problematic for previous releases).

Gez.

2012/4/25 gespertino@gmail.com :

asking because using a font that isn't free could be problematic for previous releases).

-previous +next :-)

On 12-04-25 04:59 AM, Devvv wrote:

I finally uploaded 2 more versions with a blurred line and without the line. however I like my initial version little more. it gives some special to it :) what do you think?

I slightly prefer the last one with the larger Wilber. The only problem I have with it is the "accent" lines (the thin highlight streaks) are no longer running parallel to the angle of the brushes as they were in the image before. If you fix up the angle of the streaks to match the angle of the brushes I'd say we have a winner.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:

On 12-04-25 04:59 AM, Devvv wrote:

I finally uploaded 2 more versions with a blurred line and without the line. however I like my initial version little more. it gives some special to it :) what do you think?

I slightly prefer the last one with the larger Wilber. The only problem I have with it is the "accent" lines (the thin highlight streaks) are no longer running parallel to the angle of the brushes as they were in the image before. If you fix up the angle of the streaks to match the angle of the brushes I'd say we have a winner.

IMO, the area for startup messages is too high, and the logo/GIMP 2.8 part is too close to the upper part.

Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org