On Wednesday 22 June 2016 20:18:24 gimp-print-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

Your membership in the mailing list Gimp-print-devel has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 23-Jun-2016. You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. You will receive 3 more reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted.

To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at

https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/confirm/gimp-print-devel/2a3825098 e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1

You can also visit your membership page at

https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/options/gimp-print-devel/gheskett% 40shentel.net

On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such as your email address and whether you get digests or not. As a reminder, your membership password is

fozoifip

If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner at

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Cheers, Gene Heskett

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

On Thursday 23 June 2016 11:47:13 Richard wrote:

From: gheskett@shentel.net
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 00:11:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] confirm
2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1

On Wednesday 22 June 2016 20:18:24

gimp-print-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

Your membership in the mailing list Gimp-print-devel has been disabled due to excessive bounces [ . . . ]

Some time ago I received a similar message from gimp-developer-list. I was a little confused (and suspicious) since I have never received such a message from gimp-user-list. (Incidentally, I have not received any messages from gimp-developer-list since then; maybe it was legit.)

Can anyone share further information about this?

IDK ATM. I am in central WV, much of which has been either in the dark for the last 15 hours, or listening to standby generator, which I have, a 20kw nat gas automatic. It started at about 3:22 this morning, and finally shut down for the last time about 18:07 this evening.

I got one yesterday threatening to remove me if I got one more bounce. For 1, count 'em (according to the message) bounce. Hello, this is the internet folks, stuff happens!

IMO the one bounce and you're out sucks dead toads thru soda straws, particularly in view of the worsening infrastructure of the US in the last 20 years.

I am on shentel.net for both internet and phone, did that several years ago when verizon's old copper got so bad I was out of a phone for all but 2 weeks of the first 4 months of the year, and verizon had the unmitigated gaul to get their knickers in a knot over my "harrassing" them by calling the P.U.C., which can lean on them legally if they have to. At that point I didn't have, nor could I find, a quarter to call somebody that cared as I damned sure didn't when a working phone is part of a COPD victims (my wife) lifeline. Shentel is doing their email server someplace in the "cloud" and its scary fast, so I've no clue why they would ever bounce a mailing list message addressed to me.

But this msg even though my filters seem to have missfired, is being CC:'d back to the list just to see if I have well and truly been un-subscribed.

I wish I knew what their reasoning is. But those people can't be bothered to respond to a list member, beneath their dignity or ???

-- Stratadrake
strata_ranger@hotmail.com
--------------------
Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

On Thursday 23 June 2016 22:26:19 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Gene Heskett [06-23-16 22:08]:

On Thursday 23 June 2016 11:47:13 Richard wrote:

From: gheskett@shentel.net
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 00:11:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] confirm
2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1

On Wednesday 22 June 2016 20:18:24

gimp-print-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

Your membership in the mailing list Gimp-print-devel has been disabled due to excessive bounces [ . . . ]

Some time ago I received a similar message from gimp-developer-list. I was a little confused (and suspicious) since I have never received such a message from gimp-user-list. (Incidentally, I have not received any messages from gimp-developer-list since then; maybe it was legit.)

Can anyone share further information about this?

IDK ATM. I am in central WV, much of which has been either in the dark for the last 15 hours, or listening to standby generator, which I have, a 20kw nat gas automatic. It started at about 3:22 this morning, and finally shut down for the last time about 18:07 this evening.

I got one yesterday threatening to remove me if I got one more bounce. For 1, count 'em (according to the message) bounce. Hello, this is the internet folks, stuff happens!

IMO the one bounce and you're out sucks dead toads thru soda straws, particularly in view of the worsening infrastructure of the US in the last 20 years.

I am on shentel.net for both internet and phone, did that several years ago when verizon's old copper got so bad I was out of a phone for all but 2 weeks of the first 4 months of the year, and verizon had the unmitigated gaul to get their knickers in a knot over my "harrassing" them by calling the P.U.C., which can lean on them legally if they have to. At that point I didn't have, nor could I find, a quarter to call somebody that cared as I damned sure didn't when a working phone is part of a COPD victims (my wife) lifeline. Shentel is doing their email server someplace in the "cloud" and its scary fast, so I've no clue why they would ever bounce a mailing list message addressed to me.

But this msg even though my filters seem to have missfired, is being CC:'d back to the list just to see if I have well and truly been un-subscribed.

I wish I knew what their reasoning is. But those people can't be bothered to respond to a list member, beneath their dignity or ???

-- Stratadrake
strata_ranger@hotmail.com
--------------------
Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.

your mail, the mail in question, was not cc'd "back to the list". It was addressed directly to the list. Perhaps you erred.

It went out of here addressed to you, and CC:d to the list. And I now have 2 copies of it from the list, only one of which shows it was To: the list.

It didn't leave here addressed To: the list. To: you, and CC:'d to the list, but this discussion is overshadowing my complaint.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

On Friday 24 June 2016 02:50:32 Michael Schumacher wrote:

Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Juni 2016 um 04:06 Uhr Von: "Gene Heskett"
An: Richard
Cc: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org"
Betreff: Re: [Gimp-user] confirm
2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1

I got one yesterday threatening to remove me if I got one more bounce. For 1, count 'em (according to the message) bounce. Hello, this is the internet folks, stuff happens!

IMO the one bounce and you're out sucks dead toads thru soda straws, particularly in view of the worsening infrastructure of the US in the last 20 years.

It's "one more bounce". Meaning that you have had many of them before - so you could go check the list archives and see how many of the messages you didn't receive, and then ask your mail provide why you didn't receive them.

That is an automatic 30 minute phone call because I have to convince each flunky answering the phone that I need to talk to someone about an email problem. There is at least 4 layers of useless dweebs before I get to someone who at least knows what fetchmail or linux is. I only make that call when things are really stuffed.

That is not what the server message says. The server's message always says one bounce, and quotes the bounced message, the frequency of the messages is about monthly. The bounce score in the message is under 2%. And yet I am being threatened with an automatic ubsubscribe? It doesn't figure.

Also, you are alternating between different sender addresses - @shentel.net and @wdtv.com. The latter is not subscribed to the gimp-user mailing lists and ends up in the moderation queue.

That should not have happened as my account on that server has been removed, but to be sure I just removed the wdtv.com from the sending choices so it can't "catch me up".

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

On Friday 24 June 2016 11:41:59 Michael Schumacher wrote:

On 06/24/2016 04:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Friday 24 June 2016 02:50:32 Michael Schumacher wrote:

Also, you are alternating between different sender addresses - @shentel.net and @wdtv.com. The latter is not subscribed to the gimp-user mailing lists and ends up in the moderation queue.

That should not have happened as my account on that server has been removed, but to be sure I just removed the wdtv.com from the sending choices so it can't "catch me up".

You are still sending with this address.

You are correct. I'd better check the settings for this folder also. Probably ought to start at the top of the list and correct that. Thanks for the heads up.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

On Friday 24 June 2016 12:55:06 Michael Schumacher wrote:

On 06/24/2016 06:30 PM, Richard wrote:

From: schumaml@gmx.de
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 08:41:44 +0200 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] confirm
2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2016 um 06:11 Uhr Von: "Gene Heskett"
An: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Betreff: Re: [Gimp-user] confirm
2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1

On Wednesday 22 June 2016 20:18:24 gimp-print-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, this is a different mailing list. On a different list server.

So gimp-user-list and gimp-developer-list (both @gnome.org) are processed by different servers?

That does seem odd, at first, but IIRC I did have to register on it separately....

Gene has forwarded a list membership warning mail sent from a mailing list server at SourceForge, which manages the gimp-print-devel

As you have correctly stated, we maintain the gimp lists on the mail.gnome.org server, and so can't do anything about the SF list configuration.

P.S. The message also contains a list membership password - which has been changed by now, I hope?

I probably should, but with a pw that short, I am still grappling with the fact that it doesn't appear to have ever been hacked in the nominally decade I've been subbed to that list. OTOH, that list or myself are "low value" targets I guess. In any event, its an automatically generated pw, one that needs to be 3 or 4x longer before any claims about pw security are claimed.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

On Friday 24 June 2016 13:15:38 Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Richard wrote:

gimp-print-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, this is a different mailing list. On a different list server.

So gimp-user-list and gimp-developer-list (both @gnome.org) are processed by different servers?

By the same one, on gnome.org.

gimp-print-devel@, however, is a mailing list by a 3rd party project. It's also a somewhat outdated mailing list name, because the project has been known as Gutenprint for quite a long time now.

Alex

Humm, is there now a Gutenprint-devel list? Perhaps thats the one I should be "copying"?

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page