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Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files cscj01 17 Jan 03:46
  Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files Patrick Shanahan 17 Jan 13:23
   Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files Partha Bagchi 17 Jan 13:59
    Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files cscj01 17 Jan 17:33
     Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files cscj01 17 Jan 18:26
      Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files Partha Bagchi 18 Jan 11:17
       Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files cscj01 20 Jan 05:10
        Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files Alexandre Prokoudine 20 Jan 23:37
        Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files Partha Bagchi 20 Jan 23:54
         Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files Sven Claussner 21 Jan 05:47
          Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files Partha Bagchi 21 Jan 11:31
2016-01-17 03:46:19 UTC (over 8 years ago)
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Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files

If I open a NEF file directly in 2.9.2, the image opens at 100% and is about the size of a postage stamp. The Pull-Down below the file list Select File Type contains Automatically Detected. It seems Gimp is opening the Thumbnail. On the other hand, if I go to the pull-down Select File Type and choose .nef, the file opens properly. My guess here is that Automatically Detected is not working. Or is this possibly a bug?

Patrick Shanahan
2016-01-17 13:23:06 UTC (over 8 years ago)

Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files

* cscj01 [01-17-16 03:22]:

If I open a NEF file directly in 2.9.2, the image opens at 100% and is about the size of a postage stamp. The Pull-Down below the file list Select File Type contains Automatically Detected. It seems Gimp is opening the Thumbnail. On the other hand, if I go to the pull-down Select File Type and choose .nef, the file opens properly. My guess here is that Automatically Detected is not working. Or is this possibly a bug?

"nef" is a proprietary format used by Nikon and maybe other I don't know, but gimp cannot read it. What you see the the thumbnail contained withing the closed format file. You need to use ufraw to open an pass the file to gimp. You didn't say what operating system you use, but instructions are easily found using google search.

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Partha Bagchi
2016-01-17 13:59:07 UTC (over 8 years ago)

Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files

GIMP 2.9.2 can open NEF files but unfortunately since the NEF format is based on the TIFF format, GIMP ends up opening it as a tiff and hence the thumbnail.

If you have dcraw in your path, then don't use autodetect, select NEF from the format menu and then click on NEF.

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* cscj01 [01-17-16 03:22]:

If I open a NEF file directly in 2.9.2, the image opens at 100% and is about the size of a postage stamp. The Pull-Down below the file list Select File Type contains Automatically Detected. It seems Gimp is opening the Thumbnail. On the other hand, if I go to the pull-down Select File Type and choose .nef, the file opens properly. My guess here is that Automatically Detected is not working. Or is this possibly a bug?

"nef" is a proprietary format used by Nikon and maybe other I don't know, but gimp cannot read it. What you see the the thumbnail contained withing the closed format file. You need to use ufraw to open an pass the file to gimp. You didn't say what operating system you use, but instructions are easily found using google search.

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2016-01-17 17:33:02 UTC (over 8 years ago)
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Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files

GIMP 2.9.2 can open NEF files but unfortunately since the NEF format is based on the TIFF format, GIMP ends up opening it as a tiff and hence the thumbnail.

If you have dcraw in your path, then don't use autodetect, select NEF from the format menu and then click on NEF.

It has been true since I began using Gimp that if I tried to open a NEF file, UFRaw would be launched first. For the life of me, I cannot remember how I indicated to Gimp that I wanted to use UFRaw since that has been so long ago. Now I do not know how to invoke UFRaw for a NEF file within Gimp. If I depend on Gimp to open the NEF, every time I want to open a NEF file, I have to reset the File Type from Automatically Detected to NEF. That is a real pain. By the way, I am using Ubuntu 14.04 x64.

2016-01-17 18:26:34 UTC (over 8 years ago)
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Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files

It has been true since I began using Gimp that if I tried to open a NEF file, UFRaw would be launched first. For the life of me, I cannot remember how I indicated to Gimp that I wanted to use UFRaw since that has been so long ago. Now I do not know how to invoke UFRaw for a NEF file within Gimp. If I depend on Gimp to open the NEF, every time I want to open a NEF file, I have to reset the File Type from Automatically Detected to NEF. That is a real pain. By the way, I am using Ubuntu 14.04 x64.

I now recall that there was/is a gimp UFRaw plug-in as well as a gimp dcraw one. Is that still true of Gimp 2.9? When I installed from the gimp-edge PPA, no plug-in was installed.

Partha Bagchi
2016-01-18 11:17:03 UTC (over 8 years ago)

Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 1:26 PM, cscj01 wrote:

It has been true since I began using Gimp that if I tried to open a NEF file, UFRaw would be launched first. For the life of me, I cannot remember how I indicated to Gimp that I wanted to use UFRaw since that has been so long ago. Now I do not know how to invoke UFRaw for a NEF file within Gimp. If I depend on Gimp to open the NEF, every time I want to open a NEF file, I have to reset the File Type from Automatically Detected to NEF. That is a real pain. By the way, I am using Ubuntu 14.04 x64.

I now recall that there was/is a gimp UFRaw plug-in as well as a gimp dcraw one. Is that still true of Gimp 2.9? When I installed from the gimp-edge PPA, no plug-in was installed.

GIMP has a built in gegl based NEF "plug-in". No additional software needed other than the requisite dcraw of course. Actually it can read Fuji and Panasonic as well (probably what Pippin has :) ), but that's not advertised.

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2016-01-20 05:10:39 UTC (over 8 years ago)
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Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files

GIMP has a built in gegl based NEF "plug-in". No additional software needed other than the requisite dcraw of course. Actually it can read Fuji and Panasonic as well (probably what Pippin has :) ), but that's not advertised.

If the UFRaw plugin can properly read NEF files, why can't the gegl-based nef plugin? I see this as a bug.

Alexandre Prokoudine
2016-01-20 23:37:15 UTC (over 8 years ago)

Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 8:10 AM, cscj01 wrote:

GIMP has a built in gegl based NEF "plug-in". No additional software needed other than the requisite dcraw of course. Actually it can read Fuji and Panasonic as well (probably what Pippin has :) ), but that's not advertised.

If the UFRaw plugin can properly read NEF files, why can't the gegl-based nef plugin? I see this as a bug.

You should see this as an experimental feature that isn't even promised to be any functional.

Alex

Partha Bagchi
2016-01-20 23:54:33 UTC (over 8 years ago)

Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:10 AM, cscj01 wrote:

GIMP has a built in gegl based NEF "plug-in". No additional software needed other than the requisite dcraw of course. Actually it can read Fuji and Panasonic as well (probably what Pippin has :) ), but that's not advertised.

If the UFRaw plugin can properly read NEF files, why can't the gegl-based nef plugin? I see this as a bug.

Can you tell me what the issue is? We can take it offlist if you want.

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Sven Claussner
2016-01-21 05:47:05 UTC (over 8 years ago)

Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files

On 21.1.2016 at 12:54 AM Partha Bagchi wrote:

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:10 AM, cscj01 wrote:

GIMP has a built in gegl based NEF "plug-in". No additional software needed other than the requisite dcraw of course. Actually it can read Fuji and Panasonic as well (probably what Pippin has :) ), but that's not advertised.

If the UFRaw plugin can properly read NEF files, why can't the gegl-based nef plugin? I see this as a bug.

Can you tell me what the issue is? We can take it offlist if you want.

Or perhaps you could discuss it or tell about the results of your off-list discussion on the GEGL developer list, so it would become obvious to developers what still needs to be done? Thus I'm cross-posting this to the GEGL developer list.

BTW, the same issue is for CR2 (Canon raw files). I haven't tried DNG yet. I wonder a bit that it doesn't work out of the box yet because GEGL depends on the [LibRaw library] which reads camera raw files and is an active project.

Personally I think GIMP and its users would benefit much if Camera raw files could be read and processed natively.

Greetings

Sven

[LibRaw library]: http://www.libraw.org/

Partha Bagchi
2016-01-21 11:31:23 UTC (over 8 years ago)

Gimp 2.9.2 and Nef files

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:47 AM, Sven Claussner wrote:

On 21.1.2016 at 12:54 AM Partha Bagchi wrote:

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:10 AM, cscj01 wrote:

GIMP has a built in gegl based NEF "plug-in". No additional software needed other than the requisite dcraw of course. Actually it can read Fuji and Panasonic as well (probably what Pippin has :) ), but that's not advertised.

If the UFRaw plugin can properly read NEF files, why can't the gegl-based nef
plugin? I see this as a bug.

Can you tell me what the issue is? We can take it offlist if you want.

Or perhaps you could discuss it or tell about the results of your off-list discussion on the GEGL developer list, so it would become obvious to developers what still needs to be done? Thus I'm cross-posting this to the GEGL developer list.

Of course Sven. Btw, I know that dcraw-load.c does not function on Windows and I had suggested modifications almost 3 years ago. The modifications didn't make it to the source.

BTW, the same issue is for CR2 (Canon raw files). I haven't tried DNG yet. I wonder a bit that it doesn't work out of the box yet because GEGL depends on the [LibRaw library] which reads camera raw files and is an active project.

I have had some problems with some CR2 files but not others. Also, dcraw-load.c does not depend on Libraw.

Personally I think GIMP and its users would benefit much if Camera raw files could be read and processed natively.

I agree though with caveat. You need to preprocess RAW files and dcraw-load.c exports a linear 16-bit image (one size fit all).

Greetings

Greetings to you too.

Sven

Partha

[LibRaw library]: http://www.libraw.org/

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