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User experience: texttool and drawing circles Wouter Meijer 19 Aug 07:26
  User experience: texttool and drawing circles JLuc 11 Sep 06:44
Wouter Meijer
2015-08-19 07:26:52 UTC (over 8 years ago)

User experience: texttool and drawing circles

Hi,

It's not completely clear to me where to go with my user-experience; I hope to contribute to make Gimp better with it, but not sure if the developer list is for that, so thats why I post it here. I really like Gimp and Open Source, greatly appreciate the work thats been done and I also made a donation. But there are some things that I just don't understand why it works like it does. So I've taken the time to describe my findings with the way the texttool works in Gimp and also drawing circles. Some things may be solvable by working through the manual, but I think basic stuff like this should be intuitive in software to attract new users (I am not a dev but I do have a lot of experience in training end-users in software). I described my actions as precise as possible and they should be recreatable by anyone. I used Gimp version 2.8.14 on a W7 64 system.

Hope it helps, Kind regards,
Wouter

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TEXTTOOL
I create a new 800x800 image. I select the text tool. I type text "Example". Now I want to set my fontsize bigger so I use the fontsize box in the semitransparent text toolbox to set it to 84. At this moment I expect the text in the box to get bigger, I did not select any text, so the most common thing a user wants at this point is to enlarge all text in the box. Maybe sometimes the user only wants the typed text after enlargement to get larger, but this is quite uncommon. I think in 95% of the cases people don't use different fonts/fontsize in one textbox, but use separate textboxes for different text. So, ok, I select all text and THEN change the fontsize. Now I want to change the font (current font is Sans), text is still selected. I click in the fontname (in the semitransparent text toolbox) and I expect a list of fonts to appear, but the only thing that happens is I get a blinking cursor in the name of the font (why? does the software thinks I want to edit the fontname?). So I have to use backspace and delete to remove the fontname Sans but also then no other fonts appear. I start to type the letter H and now fonts with the letter H appear (yes I could do this faster by doubleclicking and typing H but if the fontname has more words, even doubleclicking doesn't work because it selects just one word). So I see the H fonts but it's impossible to scroll through the fonts with starting with other letters! So I go to the Tool Options panel and if I click on the font button I can scroll through all the fonts. I click one e.g. Tempus Sans ITC, but the text in the box stays in font Sans! Also the fontsize in the Tool Options panel still shows fontsize 18 while I already enlarged the text to 84. Other controls like alignment do effect the text. Because I've used Gimp before, I know how to deal with these issues, but still it's quite irritating, why make it so complicated?

What I would love is...: - When I have typed text and didn't make any selection, all the controls effect all of the text in the box (fontsize, font, kerning etc) - If there appears an additional toolbox close to the text, it is synchone to the Tool Options I see on the left of my screen, so same font, fontsize etc.
- When I click in the fontbox, a list with fonts appears, and when I hover anyone of these fonts, I see the typed text change to that font so I scan very quickly which font I like the best for my text. Even if I selected my text, while I am hovering fonts the highlighting of the selected text temporarily disappears so I can see how it looks like with the colors I set, as highlighting changes the color of the text and the background. Also, the list of fonts should not cover my typed text, so I can see the effect. (like it is now, it takes ages to find the best font in Gimp)
- When I use the handles in the corner of the textbox, I would expect an option to let the fontsize change while I change the size of the box, either while holding Control or Shift. In that way it's would be very easy to change fontsize and see the results.

DRAWING CIRCLES I am always fighting with drawing a simple circle in Gimp...

So I create a new 800x800 image. I select the Ellipse tool. I start selecting in the image, then hold Shift (havent moved the mouse yet), and now I should get a circle if I start moving the mouse. But it doesn't, I can make a 235x217 ellipse. The next time I try to make a circle, it appears that the shape is fixed to the first ellipse I created, in the sense that the ratio is the same but I can change the size; no circle.
This doesn't always happen like this, sometimes I can draw circles, sometimes any shape, sometimes a fixed ratio ellipse but not a circle. Very confusing, still haven't figured it out and I used Gimp quite some time now. Imagine how it is for new users.

I would really love it when this behaviour of the Ellipse tool is always the same. If you click, then hold shift (or maybe better: first hold shift and then start selecting) it always makes a circle.

OTHER COMMENT As I went to look up how to draw a circle via Help F1, I couldn't find it because there's no search option in de Help section. Also I ctrl-F-ed "circle" but no results. Via the context help, Ellipse-tool I could find it, but it would be nice if you can search the manual easily.

JLuc
2015-09-11 06:44:13 UTC (over 8 years ago)

User experience: texttool and drawing circles

Le 19/08/2015 09:26, Wouter Meijer a crit :

there are some things that I just don't understand why it works like it does. So I've taken the time to describe my findings with the way the texttool works in Gimp and also drawing circles.

I've had the same experience with text boxes and found it uneasy to use. (and i dont draw circles).
JL