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HATE the new save vs. export behavior Norbert Preining 02 Nov 13:45
  HATE the new save vs. export behavior Melleus 02 Nov 14:06
   HATE the new save vs. export behavior Patrick Shanahan 02 Nov 15:09
   HATE the new save vs. export behavior Richard 03 Nov 18:26
    HATE the new save vs. export behavior Patrick Shanahan 03 Nov 19:47
     HATE the new save vs. export behavior Richard 06 Nov 19:50
      HATE the new save vs. export behavior Melleus 06 Nov 20:07
       HATE the new save vs. export behavior Richard 07 Nov 16:20
        HATE the new save vs. export behavior Melleus 07 Nov 19:38
  HATE the new save vs. export behavior Alexandre Prokoudine 03 Nov 20:28
   HATE Steve Kinney 03 Nov 23:32
   HATE the new save vs. export behavior Norbert Preining 04 Nov 12:54
Norbert Preining
2014-11-02 13:45:22 UTC (over 9 years ago)

HATE the new save vs. export behavior

On 2014/11/02, at 22:22, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

If there were any, wouldn't you be able to see fireworks from pretty much any part of Earth? :)

Do you really think arrogance and sarcasm helps deescalating the problem?

You seem to be very Gnome-ish in your development: "We have commit rights, so piss off!"

Good way to go forward, congratulations!

Norbert

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Melleus
2014-11-02 14:06:54 UTC (over 9 years ago)

HATE the new save vs. export behavior

Everybody who prefers to lose information when exporting the work to jpg instead of saving it and posesses the skill of reading could find in the manual the way to remap the hotleys. No problem to discuss.

Patrick Shanahan
2014-11-02 15:09:07 UTC (over 9 years ago)

HATE the new save vs. export behavior

* Melleus [11-02-14 09:08]:

Everybody who prefers to lose information when exporting the work to jpg instead of saving it and posesses the skill of reading could find in the manual the way to remap the hotleys. No problem to discuss.

Ability to post email != Intelligence

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Richard
2014-11-03 18:26:56 UTC (over 9 years ago)

HATE the new save vs. export behavior

To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
From: melleus@openmailbox.org
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 16:06:54 +0200 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

Everybody who prefers to lose information when exporting the work to jpg instead of saving it and posesses the skill of reading could find in the manual the way to remap the hotleys. No problem to discuss.

There's only one "problem" with the current model: I, for one, would love an option to suppress the unsaved changes prompt in the event that I'm working on a simple image file that is exported to a standard file format and has no XCF associated with it. Such as when I'm downscaling digital photos for uploading to the Internet.

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Patrick Shanahan
2014-11-03 19:47:57 UTC (over 9 years ago)

HATE the new save vs. export behavior

* Richard [11-03-14 13:27]:

To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
From: melleus@openmailbox.org
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 16:06:54 +0200 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

Everybody who prefers to lose information when exporting the work to jpg instead of saving it and posesses the skill of reading could find in the manual the way to remap the hotleys. No problem to discuss.

There's only one "problem" with the current model: I, for one, would love an option to suppress the unsaved changes prompt in the event that I'm working on a simple image file that is exported to a standard file format and has no XCF associated with it. Such as when I'm downscaling digital photos for uploading to the Internet.

BUT, you are using a tool which is not build nor intended for that audience, so you adjust or use a different tool.

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Alexandre Prokoudine
2014-11-03 20:28:12 UTC (over 9 years ago)

HATE the new save vs. export behavior

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Norbert Preining wrote:

On 2014/11/02, at 22:22, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

If there were any, wouldn't you be able to see fireworks from pretty much any part of Earth? :)

Do you really think arrogance and sarcasm helps deescalating the problem?

No, and that's why I'm kindly asking you to refrain from emails like this one in your further contributions to GIMP's mailing lists. Thank you.

You seem to be very Gnome-ish in your development: "We have commit rights, so piss off!"

I don't think that my personal opinion on the matter is any important, but if you actually want to know what I think, may I suggest that you spare ~1K of subscribers their precious time and contact me off-list?

For the record, I'm not going to wear a mask of grave seriousness in a public mailing list. This is not a corporation. It's a free software project. I hope you can deal with that.

Alex

Steve Kinney
2014-11-03 23:32:45 UTC (over 9 years ago)

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*sigh*

I think the fact that certain ancient troll threads on gimp-user have not been terminated by setting filter rules speaks volumes about how tolerant and idealistic the list maintainers are.

:o)

Steve

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Norbert Preining
2014-11-04 12:54:18 UTC (over 9 years ago)

HATE the new save vs. export behavior

On Tue, 04 Nov 2014, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

Do you really think arrogance and sarcasm helps deescalating the problem?

No, and that's why I'm kindly asking you to refrain from emails like this one in your further contributions to GIMP's mailing lists. Thank you.

[...]

For the record, I'm not going to wear a mask of grave seriousness in a public mailing list. This is not a corporation. It's a free software

For the record, I am the *last* who is asking for grave seriousness, I agree that in a volunteer project sarcasm, irony, and fun should be present (and I am fighting against Debian's move to abolish that!).

My email was about you ignoring the issue. That is all. But you didn't get it.

Norbert

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Richard
2014-11-06 19:50:00 UTC (over 9 years ago)

HATE the new save vs. export behavior

Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 14:47:57 -0500 From: ptilopteri@gmail.com
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

* Richard [11-03-14 13:27]:

> There's only one "problem" with the current model: I, for one, would love an option to suppress the unsaved changes prompt in the event that I'm working on a simple image file that is exported to a standard file format and has no XCF associated with it. Such as when I'm downscaling digital photos for uploading to the Internet.

BUT, you are using a tool which is not build nor intended for that audience, so you adjust or use a different tool. --

Workflow preferences aside, the tool in question nonetheless does a good job with what I'm trying to use it for, which saves me from having to go find another tool for the same job.

(Tangent: I have a [literal] swiss army knife and what's the function I use most from it? The scissors.)

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Melleus
2014-11-06 20:07:07 UTC (over 9 years ago)

HATE the new save vs. export behavior

Richard writes:

Such as when I'm
downscaling digital photos for uploading to the Internet.

Did you try ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick for that? It's a way faster and richer in opportunities. And there's no save/export problem. Why live with a problem that is so easy to eliminate? Completely eliminate. Do you eat spaghetti with a spoon?

Richard
2014-11-07 16:20:30 UTC (over 9 years ago)

HATE the new save vs. export behavior

To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
From: melleus@openmailbox.org
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 22:07:07 +0200 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

Richard writes:

Such as when I'm
downscaling digital photos for uploading to the Internet.

Did you try ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick for that? It's a way faster and richer in opportunities. And there's no save/export problem. Why live with a problem that is so easy to eliminate? Completely eliminate. Do you eat spaghetti with a spoon?

Because considering how often I actually encounter it isn't really a big deal? And I do need GIMP for other tasks. And I'm not in the mood for spaghetti right now....

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Melleus
2014-11-07 19:38:21 UTC (over 9 years ago)

HATE the new save vs. export behavior

Sorry then. By the way, ImageMagick is a very capable software for image resizing. More capable then GIMP I beleive. It has 16 bit color depth by default (and can do even floating point) and a number of high quality computation algoritms for resampling images to choose from. Sometimes it's faster to type some command line, than finding the way through the GUI. And I do use GIMP either.