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GIMP move tool josephbupe 16 May 07:07
  GIMP move tool Alexandre Prokoudine 16 May 07:16
   GIMP move tool josephbupe 16 May 07:40
  GIMP move tool josephbupe 16 May 07:23
   GIMP move tool Richard 16 May 14:17
    GIMP move tool Alexandre Prokoudine 16 May 14:24
     GIMP move tool Richard 16 May 14:32
      GIMP move tool Alexandre Prokoudine 16 May 14:40
       GIMP move tool Øyvind Kolås 16 May 15:35
josephbupe
2014-05-16 07:07:31 UTC (almost 10 years ago)
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Hi,

This is especially for GIMP developers.

Many times I am working with GIMP I want to like draw shapes on the same transparent layer and later move them around in different positions. However, it's not easy (in GIMP) to just select an area of a given shape and reposition it on the same layer without using cut and paste. Another way would be to draw shapes on different layers each then I can move them; but that's a work around I don't want.

In some other applications like paint.net, I could draw shapes on the same transparent layer and later click any shape and move it in a different position and even rescale. This is possible in Krita and Photoshop and I think it's so handy to work that way.

Could we have the same implemented in GIMP?

See attached screenshort for easy reference.

Regards.

Alexandre Prokoudine
2014-05-16 07:16:23 UTC (almost 10 years ago)

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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:07 AM, josephbupe wrote:

Many times I am working with GIMP I want to like draw shapes on the same transparent layer and later move them around in different positions. However, it's not easy (in GIMP) to just select an area of a given shape and reposition it on the same layer without using cut and paste.

You mean, Ctrl+Alt+dragging a selection is not easy? :)

Alexandre

josephbupe
2014-05-16 07:23:15 UTC (almost 10 years ago)
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Sorry, I forgot to attach.

josephbupe
2014-05-16 07:40:23 UTC (almost 10 years ago)
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You mean, Ctrl+Alt+dragging a selection is not easy? :)

Alexandre

Thanx Alenxandre. I spent the whole time trying to figure this out.

It's easy.

Richard
2014-05-16 14:17:01 UTC (almost 10 years ago)

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Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:23:15 +0200 From: forums@gimpusers.com
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
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Subject: [Gimp-user] GIMP move tool

Sorry, I forgot to attach.

Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/114/original/select-move.png

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Judging from that screenshot, it looks like in Paint.net when you draw a geometric shape (circle, rectangle, etc.) it displays selection handles that enable you to move or alter said shape as a separate drawing object (like how GIMP handles ellipse/rectangle selections).

GIMP has basically no support for this kind of object manipulation at this time, though I agree that in some cases having a few 'vector objects' as their own discrete layers (a la text objects and layers) would be very, very convenient.

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Alexandre Prokoudine
2014-05-16 14:24:17 UTC (almost 10 years ago)

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16 мая 2014 г. 18:17 пользователь "Richard" написал:

GIMP has basically no support for this kind of object manipulation at this time, though I agree that in some cases having a few 'vector objects' as their own discrete layers (a la text objects and layers) would be very, very convenient.

Just for precision's sake, GIMP has a backend for vector layers, without UI (there _was_ initial UI, it was never merged). But the code hasn't been touched in years, and I've my suspicions about its usefulness.

Alexandre

Richard
2014-05-16 14:32:06 UTC (almost 10 years ago)

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Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 18:24:17 +0400 From: alexandre.prokoudine@gmail.com CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP move tool

16 2014 . 18:17 "Richard" :

GIMP has basically no support for this kind of object manipulation at this time, though I agree that in some cases having a few 'vector objects' as their own discrete layers (a la text objects and layers) would be very, very convenient.

Just for precision's sake, GIMP has a backend for vector layers, without UI (there _was_ initial UI, it was never merged). But the code hasn't been touched in years, and I've my suspicions about its usefulness.

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Take Paths for example: Path objects do not have attached layer data, meaning that every time you adjust a path you have to re-stroke it onto a target surface. Contrast with text objects, which do have an attached layer that updates automatically as you change the underlying text or rendering style (font face, color, etc.)

(I also find GIMP's path editing controls very confusing compared to Inkscape, but that's a different matter.)

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Alexandre Prokoudine
2014-05-16 14:40:23 UTC (almost 10 years ago)

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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Richard wrote:

Take Paths for example: Path objects do not have attached layer data, meaning that every time you adjust a path you have to re-stroke it onto a target surface.

Oh, that. Øyvind might need to correct me, but basic stroking of SVG-based paths is done in GEGL. "We have an op for that" :)

Alexandre

Øyvind Kolås
2014-05-16 15:35:47 UTC (almost 10 years ago)

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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Richard wrote:

Take Paths for example: Path objects do not have attached layer data, meaning that every time you adjust a path you have to re-stroke it onto a target surface.

Oh, that. Øyvind might need to correct me, but basic stroking of SVG-based paths is done in GEGL. "We have an op for that" :)

The gegl:path op (or a similar one), is the foundation that seems natural to base vector layers on. The gegl:text op isn't as powerful as GIMPs text tool yet; but is other, and similar, rendering code that ideally would be migrated to a GEGL op.

/Øyvind