Hi,

Carol Spears writes:

removing the text entry location is a silly way to solve the tab completion problem, if this is what happened.

I'd prefer if everyone who wants to contribute to this discussion tries the new file selector first. A guess on how a new widget might work is not a good basis for a productive discussion.

The new file chooser is definitely an improvement but I'd like to see the location entry being integrated into the dialog instead of keeping it in an extra dialog. At the very least it should be better documented how to get to the text entry field.

Another issue that can be solved by improving the docs is what needs to be done so that the filechooser uses icons. See this mail:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2004-May/msg00010.html

Sven

On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 09:55 -0700, Carol Spears wrote:

i have a feeling that someone like jimmac and/or tigert could design a file selector that would be more for the gimps needs and not a generic answer everyones needs (not gimps) widget and at least one of the gimp developers could easily put one together.

I would rather address some of the issues with the new fileselector and use the possibility to extend it rather than going for something completely different. The Ctrl+L entry needs some love indeed, but especially the save dialog is very dandy.

cheers

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:31:02 -0700 Carol Spears wrote:

this is a more than fair request, except for the fact that it is impossible for someone who is using gimp-2.0 to easily use gimp-2.1.

It what way is it impossible? I have both running at the same time with different themes for easy identification.

2004-06-14, h keltezéssel 20:18-kor Jakub Steiner ezt írta:

On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 09:55 -0700, Carol Spears wrote:

i have a feeling that someone like jimmac and/or tigert could design a file selector that would be more for the gimps needs and not a generic answer everyones needs (not gimps) widget and at least one of the gimp developers could easily put one together.

Hi,

Maybe I would post at the gtk mailing list, but first Im curious for your opinions. I have made a file open dialog improvement in the new one (as mockup).

The main improvements are: 1. a horizontal layout for the path (the one divided by / signs) on the top (new : / sign; always starts from root) 2. folder names are bold
3. input field, where TAB completion works of course, as in the previous version. Above that path could be repeated as simple text. 4. name of the selected file appears in the input field (as in the earlier version)

Mockup:
http://www.pvvbitech.hu/fotok/openDialog/openDialog.png

If anybody will improve, here is the xcf file: http://www.pvvbitech.hu/fotok/openDialog/openDialog.xcf

All feedback, opinion are most welcome!

Cheers, Khiraly

the buttons that are there on my gimp-2.0 file-selector are just space wasters. i dont have or use a "Desktop" directory (or folder, whatever) nor do i have or use a "Documents" directory (or folder, again, whatever).

Documents, Desktop and Home was there in gimp 2.0 too. The improvement what is already there, that you can add a specific directory at the left list.

while the "/" between the buttons look sort of silly,

For me the "/" between the buttons just *clarify* what are this huge amount of button. Is it a path. At the moment (gimp 2.1.0) the buttons are organized horizontalement too, but at the first look I didnt recognize that its a path, I thinked that there are just another option buttons.

So I think, if the path button would be rest horizontal arrangement(and not drop-down menu), that it must separate with a / for clarify that its a *path*. Maybe it is a waste of space, it can developed (i think), but it must be there.

Cheers,
Khiraly

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Jakub Steiner wrote:

Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:18:03 +0200 From: Jakub Steiner
To: Carol Spears
Cc: GIMPUser
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector

On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 09:55 -0700, Carol Spears wrote:

i have a feeling that someone like jimmac and/or tigert could design a file selector that would be more for the gimps needs and not a generic answer everyones needs (not gimps) widget and at least one of the gimp developers could easily put one together.

I would rather address some of the issues with the new fileselector and use the possibility to extend it rather than going for something completely different. The Ctrl+L entry needs some love indeed, but especially the save dialog is very dandy.

I think this would be very wise.

There is an outstanding bug report requesting a way to have the location bar always be shown (i posted a link in an ealier thread on the developer list).

There are many applications besides the GIMP that want/need a thumbnail preview in their filechooser, so if the gtk developers knew what was required there could be extended version of the standard file selector that could benifit more than just the GIMP.

- Alan.

Hi,

Alan Horkan writes:

completely different. The Ctrl+L entry needs some love indeed, but especially the save dialog is very dandy.

I think this would be very wise.

Mind if I ask what "this" is which is supposed to be very wise? The save dialog being very dandy?

There are many applications besides the GIMP that want/need a thumbnail preview in their filechooser, so if the gtk developers knew what was required there could be extended version of the standard file selector that could benifit more than just the GIMP.

Would you mind to explain why you are talking about thumbnail previews now? Did I miss something?

Sven

Sorry for the late reply

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Sven Neumann wrote:

Date: 15 Jun 2004 11:02:39 +0200
From: Sven Neumann
To: Alan Horkan
Cc: GIMPUser
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] a gimp file-selector

Hi,

Alan Horkan writes:

completely different. The Ctrl+L entry needs some love indeed, but especially the save dialog is very dandy.

I think this would be very wise.

Mind if I ask what "this" is which is supposed to be very wise? The save dialog being very dandy?

this refferred to Jimmacs suggestion

use the possibility to extend it rather than going for something completely different. The Ctrl+L entry needs some love indeed, but

it makes sense to extend the generic gtk file chooser so that it has a preview pane that other developers can use rather than having it as a GIMP only feature.

- Alan

Hi,

Alan Horkan writes:

use the possibility to extend it rather than going for something completely different. The Ctrl+L entry needs some love indeed, but

it makes sense to extend the generic gtk file chooser so that it has a preview pane that other developers can use rather than having it as a GIMP only feature.

It isn't a GIMP only feature, what are you talking? The preview is part of the standard GtkFileChooser. Alan, please, make yourself comfortable with the GTK+ APIs or just stop making such remarks.

Sven

Hi,

Carol Spears writes:

earlier on in this thread, i was rambling on about gimp-1.2 which had a file selector that was unique to the gimp.

Sorry, but this is just plain wrong. GIMP never had a file selector that was unique to the gimp (well, except when gtk+ was only used by gimp). We only used to poke more in the gtk+ file-selector internals than we do now with the file-chooser widget.

Sven

Hi,

Carol Spears writes:

On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 01:29:54AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:

We only used to poke more in the gtk+ file-selector internals than we do now with the file-chooser widget.

which made the gimp-1.2 file selector unique among gtk apps (back then)?

Do you think so? I wouldn't call it unique, I'd call it slightly different. The actual file-selection wasn't changed at all. We only tweaked some spacings and added a preview (and a lot of other apps did that as well).

Sven