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small suggestion for consistency Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list 25 Oct 06:13
  small suggestion for consistency Simon Budig 25 Oct 09:37
   small suggestion for consistency Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list 25 Oct 13:17
    small suggestion for consistency Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list 25 Oct 13:22
    small suggestion for consistency Simon Budig 25 Oct 14:00
     small suggestion for consistency Pat David via gimp-developer-list 25 Oct 20:31
Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list
2018-10-25 06:13:22 UTC (over 5 years ago)

small suggestion for consistency

Hello devs,
I'm here to suggest a small change in the ui for consistency. I haven't open a bug since I want you to tell me if it is worth before committing the BR.

The menu layer should named layers for consistency with the other menus like colors, tools, filters.

TIA

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Marco Ciampa

I know a joke about UDP, but you might not get it.

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Simon Budig
2018-10-25 09:37:12 UTC (over 5 years ago)

small suggestion for consistency

Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list (gimp-developer-list@gnome.org) wrote:

The menu layer should named layers for consistency with the other menus like colors, tools, filters.

Would you suggest to change "Image" to "Images" as well?

Both feels wrong to me, since the "Layer" menu mostly deals with actions affecting just one layer (the current one).

"Filters" is a collection of multiple filters, "Tools" is a collection of multiple tools, "Colors" deals with multiple colors in the image.

Bye, Simon

simon@budig.de              http://simon.budig.de/
Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list
2018-10-25 13:17:20 UTC (over 5 years ago)

small suggestion for consistency

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 11:37:12AM +0200, Simon Budig wrote:

Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list (gimp-developer-list@gnome.org) wrote:

The menu layer should named layers for consistency with the other menus like colors, tools, filters.

Would you suggest to change "Image" to "Images" as well?

No. Image deal with _one_ image at a time. Level deal with one or more levels at a time (see below).

Both feels wrong to me, since the "Layer" menu mostly deals with actions affecting just one layer (the current one).

Level groups are made not of just one level. Same as for a stack of levels.

"Filters" is a collection of multiple filters,

right

"Tools" is a collection of multiple tools,

right

"Colors" deals with multiple colors in the image.

right

and levels deals with multiple levels in the image, in groups and in a stack.

... but this is just an observation and a suggestion ...

TIA

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Marco Ciampa

I know a joke about UDP, but you might not get it.

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GNU/Linux User #78271 FSFE fellow #364

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Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list
2018-10-25 13:22:11 UTC (over 5 years ago)

small suggestion for consistency

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 03:17:20PM +0200, Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list wrote:

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 11:37:12AM +0200, Simon Budig wrote:

Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list (gimp-developer-list@gnome.org) wrote:

The menu layer should named layers for consistency with the other menus like colors, tools, filters.

Would you suggest to change "Image" to "Images" as well?

No. Image deal with _one_ image at a time. Level deal with one or more levels at a time (see below).

sorry s/level/layer/g

Marco Ciampa

I know a joke about UDP, but you might not get it.

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 GNU/Linux User #78271
 FSFE fellow #364

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Simon Budig
2018-10-25 14:00:28 UTC (over 5 years ago)

small suggestion for consistency

Hi Marco.

Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list (gimp-developer-list@gnome.org) wrote:

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 11:37:12AM +0200, Simon Budig wrote:

Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list (gimp-developer-list@gnome.org) wrote:

The menu layer should named layers for consistency with the other menus like colors, tools, filters.

Would you suggest to change "Image" to "Images" as well?

No. Image deal with _one_ image at a time. Level deal with one or more levels at a time (see below).

Both feels wrong to me, since the "Layer" menu mostly deals with actions affecting just one layer (the current one).

Layer groups are made not of just one layer. Same as for a stack of layers.

[...]

and layers deals with multiple layers in the image, in groups and in a stack.

... but this is just an observation and a suggestion ...

I might be missing something obvious, but when looking at the Layer-Menu I can see one menu entry that affects all layers simultaneously: Layer->Stack->Reverse Layer order.

All other entries are really quite specific to the currently selected layer: either by moving it to some other position in the stack, selecting a layer in a specific relation to the current layer, Change the current layer size etc...

Granted, some of these implicitely affect the other layers in the stack, but there always is the one designated layer that the operation is defined by.

True, if the current layer is a layer group, these operations work on a set of sub-layers, but that is more an effect of having currently selected a layer group - the operations still work on the currently selected item in the layer stack (and its child items).

It feels a little bit like bike shedding, but I still believe that "Layer" is correct.

Bye,
Simon

simon@budig.de              http://simon.budig.de/
Pat David via gimp-developer-list
2018-10-25 20:31:01 UTC (over 5 years ago)

small suggestion for consistency

I tend to agree with Simon that “Layer” seems appropriate for this usage. On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:00 AM Simon Budig wrote:

Hi Marco.

Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list (gimp-developer-list@gnome.org) wrote:

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 11:37:12AM +0200, Simon Budig wrote:

Marco Ciampa via gimp-developer-list (gimp-developer-list@gnome.org)

wrote:

The menu layer should named layers for consistency with the other menus like colors, tools, filters.

Would you suggest to change "Image" to "Images" as well?

No. Image deal with _one_ image at a time. Level deal with one or more levels at a time (see below).

Both feels wrong to me, since the "Layer" menu mostly deals with

actions

affecting just one layer (the current one).

Layer groups are made not of just one layer. Same as for a stack of layers.

[...]

and layers deals with multiple layers in the image, in groups and in a

stack.

... but this is just an observation and a suggestion ...

I might be missing something obvious, but when looking at the Layer-Menu I can see one menu entry that affects all layers simultaneously: Layer->Stack->Reverse Layer order.

All other entries are really quite specific to the currently selected layer: either by moving it to some other position in the stack, selecting a layer in a specific relation to the current layer, Change the current layer size etc...

Granted, some of these implicitely affect the other layers in the stack, but there always is the one designated layer that the operation is defined by.

True, if the current layer is a layer group, these operations work on a set of sub-layers, but that is more an effect of having currently selected a layer group - the operations still work on the currently selected item in the layer stack (and its child items).

It feels a little bit like bike shedding, but I still believe that "Layer" is correct.

Bye,
Simon
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