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Mandatory Use of GIMP? Andrew Keene 23 Apr 21:49
  Mandatory Use of GIMP? Michael Schumacher 24 Apr 21:52
   Mandatory Use of GIMP? C R 27 Apr 18:04
  Mandatory Use of GIMP? Simon Budig 24 Apr 21:59
   Mandatory Use of GIMP? C R 27 Apr 17:49
  Mandatory Use of GIMP? Alexandre Prokoudine 24 Apr 21:59
Andrew Keene
2018-04-23 21:49:08 UTC (almost 6 years ago)

Mandatory Use of GIMP?

Are you aware of any hacktivists involved with your development who might use Denial of Service attacks against open source competitors? You software is pretty good for a free open source image editing program, but I have on several instances had the following experience:

1. Sometimes, after installing GIMP, my system acts as if it has been hacked and I have to reinstall everything. 2. On several instances, I have found that sites like Krita.org become unavailable when I attempt to download their software.

Is it possible that some worthless, petty piece of shit is manipulating your very generous contribution to the world to further an agenda of sociopathy? Do you thoroughly vet contributors for their totalitarian goals?

I have always felt that open source projects like yours offer an absolutely incredible case of leading by example. Like paying it forward. You have managed to put together a project that inspires people to spread decency by personal motivation instead of at the point of a gun like most, "sharing," or communism-based socioeconomic policies. That's a great achievement, unless corrupt little shitbags turn things into a Berlin wall kind of thing. Cause nobody likes that. And it never works. And the 1% jackholes just end up climbing governmental ladders instead of corporate ladders and then there's no check on their power, so they end up doing really insane interpersonal ideological things like banning the use of saxophones in music because the saxophone was invented by a Belgian person, and Belgium (the nation) was not too nice to people in Brazil or something. Another sign of totalitarian insanity is banning the use of a font, like Times New Roman. Or labeling people trans-phobi c because they live 1 mile inside of the boundary of North Carolina, or even contemplate moving to North Carolina, because as we all know, once you cross the boundary into the state of North Carolina, you instantly adopt the same positions about things that news outlets say people from that area hold. It's nearly as sane as deciding to use straight lines drawn across regions of the Mideast to identify nations, like those that define the sameness of people in areas like Syria or Afghanistan, and expecting internal tranquility. Thanks early 1900s United Kingdom. Everyone loved the British Empire. They abolished slavery long before the US, proving their moral superiority. Just ask Jamaicans about life in 1960s Jamaica. Natty.

PS: Your logo looks like a design I did while employed at a company in San Diego! Cool.

Michael Schumacher
2018-04-24 21:52:16 UTC (almost 6 years ago)

Mandatory Use of GIMP?

On 04/23/2018 11:49 PM, Andrew Keene wrote:

Are you aware of any hacktivists involved with your development [...]

We're reading this mail in the GIMP HQ during our pre-Libre-Graphics-Meeting stay in Sevilla and are just as surprised as you, dear fellow readers.

Neither did anyone of the group write it in any heightened state of awareness.

Honest.

Regards,
Michael
GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD
Simon Budig
2018-04-24 21:59:12 UTC (almost 6 years ago)

Mandatory Use of GIMP?

Hi Andrew.

Andrew Keene (amkeen3@outlook.com) wrote:

Are you aware of any hacktivists involved with your development who might use Denial of Service attacks against open source competitors? You software is pretty good for a free open source image editing program, but I have on several instances had the following experience:

1. Sometimes, after installing GIMP, my system acts as if it has been hacked and I have to reinstall everything. 2. On several instances, I have found that sites like Krita.org become unavailable when I attempt to download their software.

Is it possible that some worthless, petty piece of shit is manipulating your very generous contribution to the world to further an agenda of sociopathy? Do you thoroughly vet contributors for their totalitarian goals?

We are unaware of any activity in this direction and we are certain that the binaries distributed by us (gimp.org) don't contain anything that targets competitor products.

That having said we have seen instances where gimp downloads from other sites were tainted with code not approved by us, hampering the user experience of the victim. If you've downloaded Gimp from any source and find it containing stuff you think that shouldn't be there, then we'd like to know about this including the site you've downloaded GIMP from, so that we can actually issue a specific warning.

And for the records: we - speaking for the gimp development team here - are perfectly happy with people choosing their tool according to their tastes, we're perfectly fine if someone prefers Photoshop, Krita or anything else over GIMP.

Bye,
Simon

simon@budig.de              http://simon.budig.de/
Alexandre Prokoudine
2018-04-24 21:59:44 UTC (almost 6 years ago)

Mandatory Use of GIMP?

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 12:49 AM, Andrew Keene wrote:

Are you aware of any hacktivists involved with your development who might use Denial of Service attacks against open source competitors? You software is pretty good for a free open source image editing program, but I have on several instances had the following experience:

1. Sometimes, after installing GIMP, my system acts as if it has been hacked and I have to reinstall everything. 2. On several instances, I have found that sites like Krita.org become unavailable when I attempt to download their software.

Is it possible that some worthless, petty piece of shit is manipulating your very generous contribution to the world to further an agenda of sociopathy? Do you thoroughly vet contributors for their totalitarian goals?

As a self-proclaimed PR person in this project and a Russian citizen, I can neither confirm nor deny...

Alex

C R
2018-04-27 17:49:13 UTC (almost 6 years ago)

Mandatory Use of GIMP?

As a designer who uses the latest development builds of GIMP every day in production, and also the latest Krita, I can confirm there is no such code in GIMP, nor in the 9 or so years in which I have used GIMP have I encountered any of the issues described. I've always gotten GIMP from GIMP.org and from official development repositories. Do be careful where you get your GIMP!

-C

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018, 23:04 Simon Budig, wrote:

Hi Andrew.

Andrew Keene (amkeen3@outlook.com) wrote:

Are you aware of any hacktivists involved with your development who might use Denial of Service attacks against open source competitors? You software is pretty good for a free open source image editing program, but I have on several instances had the following experience:

1. Sometimes, after installing GIMP, my system acts as if it has been hacked and I have to reinstall everything. 2. On several instances, I have found that sites like Krita.org become unavailable when I attempt to download their software.

Is it possible that some worthless, petty piece of shit is manipulating your very generous contribution to the world to further an agenda of sociopathy? Do you thoroughly vet contributors for their totalitarian goals?

We are unaware of any activity in this direction and we are certain that the binaries distributed by us (gimp.org) don't contain anything that targets competitor products.

That having said we have seen instances where gimp downloads from other sites were tainted with code not approved by us, hampering the user experience of the victim. If you've downloaded Gimp from any source and find it containing stuff you think that shouldn't be there, then we'd like to know about this including the site you've downloaded GIMP from, so that we can actually issue a specific warning.

And for the records: we - speaking for the gimp development team here - are perfectly happy with people choosing their tool according to their tastes, we're perfectly fine if someone prefers Photoshop, Krita or anything else over GIMP.

Bye,
Simon
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C R
2018-04-27 18:04:46 UTC (almost 6 years ago)

Mandatory Use of GIMP?

GIMP is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY SMOKEABILITY; without even the implied warranty of SMOKEABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULARLY INEXPENSIVE HIGH. See the GNU General Public License for more details.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

On 04/23/2018 11:49 PM, Andrew Keene wrote:

Are you aware of any hacktivists involved with your development [...]

We're reading this mail in the GIMP HQ during our pre-Libre-Graphics-Meeting stay in Sevilla and are just as surprised as you, dear fellow readers.

Neither did anyone of the group write it in any heightened state of awareness.

Honest.

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Regards,
Michael
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