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Gimp Texttool Native Language Partha Bagchi 26 Sep 13:18
  Gimp Texttool Native Language jEsuSdA 8) 26 Sep 14:21
   Gimp Texttool Native Language Partha Bagchi 26 Sep 20:12
    Gimp Texttool Native Language Jernej Simončič 26 Sep 20:38
    Gimp Texttool Native Language Jehan Pagès 27 Sep 16:15
Partha Bagchi
2014-09-26 13:18:48 UTC (over 9 years ago)

Gimp Texttool Native Language

I am trying to figure out how to type in languages other than English.However, even if I select "Use Selected Font", I still don't see the native language and text still comes out in English.

Here is a screenshot.

http://www.partha.com/temp/official-gimp-texttool.png

Is there something I am missing?

Thanks, Partha

Gimp 2.8.14 Win 8.1

jEsuSdA 8)
2014-09-26 14:21:37 UTC (over 9 years ago)

Gimp Texttool Native Language

El 26/09/14 a las 15:18, Partha Bagchi escribió:

I am trying to figure out how to type in languages other than English.However, even if I select "Use Selected Font", I still don't see the native language and text still comes out in English.

Here is a screenshot.

http://www.partha.com/temp/official-gimp-texttool.png

Is there something I am missing?

Forgive me if I tell you anything is obvious to you, but I see you typed "This is a text" so, "This is a text" is what Gimp shows.

If you want to type anything in other language, I think you must type " 红房子" and then, select a font with support for this chararacter set.

In other words, the language is not defined by the typefont itself, the typefont could have or not support for one language or other, but the language is defined for the words you type.

I Repeat: May be I'm wrong and I'm tell you something that you know yet, then forgive me. But I think you typed "This is a text" on english, so, maybe this message could help you.

Tell me if this helps you or I'm telling nonsense things! ;)

Salu2 de jEsuSdA 8)

Partha Bagchi
2014-09-26 20:12:15 UTC (over 9 years ago)

Gimp Texttool Native Language

Well, would you tell what you mean by "you must type 红房子" and then, select a font with support for this character set"?

You can see in the image that I selected a font and selected "use selected font".

Does this not imply that if my keyboard is inputting a specific series of 2-byte characters, Gimp should display those characters? In other words, if the keyboard is mapped to specific character set, should it not be displaying those characters?

So, it's not obvious to me. :(

Thanks, Partha

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:21 AM, jEsuSdA 8) wrote:

El 26/09/14 a las 15:18, Partha Bagchi escribió:

I am trying to figure out how to type in languages other than English.However, even if I select "Use Selected Font", I still don't see the native language and text still comes out in English.

Here is a screenshot.

http://www.partha.com/temp/official-gimp-texttool.png

Is there something I am missing?

Forgive me if I tell you anything is obvious to you, but I see you typed "This is a text" so, "This is a text" is what Gimp shows.

If you want to type anything in other language, I think you must type " 红房子" and then, select a font with support for this chararacter set.

In other words, the language is not defined by the typefont itself, the typefont could have or not support for one language or other, but the language is defined for the words you type.

I Repeat: May be I'm wrong and I'm tell you something that you know yet, then forgive me. But I think you typed "This is a text" on english, so, maybe this message could help you.

Tell me if this helps you or I'm telling nonsense things! ;)

Salu2 de jEsuSdA 8)

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Jernej Simončič
2014-09-26 20:38:39 UTC (over 9 years ago)

Gimp Texttool Native Language

On Friday, September 26, 2014, 22:12:15, Partha Bagchi wrote:

Does this not imply that if my keyboard is inputting a specific series of 2-byte characters, Gimp should display those characters? In other words, if the keyboard is mapped to specific character set, should it not be displaying those characters?

To put it simply: if you want č to appear, you have to press č on your keyboard. If you want 红 to appear, you have to have the correct IME and enter the characters required for 红 to appear. If you type "This is a test", you'll get "This is a test" on the screen, as long as the font has Latin characters mapped properly (which nearly all fonts do).

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Jehan Pagès
2014-09-27 16:15:26 UTC (over 9 years ago)

Gimp Texttool Native Language

Hi,

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Partha Bagchi wrote:

Well, would you tell what you mean by "you must type 红房子" and then, select a font with support for this character set"?

You can see in the image that I selected a font and selected "use selected font".

Does this not imply that if my keyboard is inputting a specific series of 2-byte characters, Gimp should display those characters? In other words, if the keyboard is mapped to specific character set, should it not be displaying those characters?

So, it's not obvious to me. :(

Just to make things clearer, because I know that typing in foreign languages can be very blurry until you happen to do so. There are several points:

1/ GIMP does not remap your keyboard. So for languages which just need a remapping (like many European languages, which usually have just a few additional characters to ASCII and just need these additional characters to be mapped as Alternative "Alt" and/or "Shift" characters), you still have to either remap your keyboard yourself in whatever operating system you use, or set up a "Compose" key (which allows to artificially create characters out of 2 otherwise potentially unrelated characters. For instance, each time I want to have the € symbol, I have to type c=).

2/ GIMP does not embed an input method. For more complicated/vast languages, which have much more characters than what keys are available on your keyboard (or because it would make things too messy), users have to set up "input methods" over the normal keyboard mapping. This is an intermediary software, running in background, which grabs the keyboard and transform the input into other characters, given language specific rules (there is not a "standard" method, each language has its own input rules, and sometimes even, there are different input rules for a single language, to be chosen from, depending on user preferences).

You'd use such a software when you type in Japanese, Chinese or Korean for instance (and others, but these are the only ones I know for sure). And yes, people in these countries *all* have an alternative input method software installed (these are installed by default in proprietary operating systems, when sold in these countries), because that never comes out of the box. Operating systems have clearly been originally built by and for Western people (you can already see so when you see keyboards all around the world).

As a conclusion: you should search how to write in the target language given your operating system (tip: on Linux, look for "ibus", this is the currently recommended software for alternative input methods; other OSes, I don't know) in a "generic" way. When you'll be able to write in some alternative language in *any* program, then you'll be able in GIMP too. GIMP is not particular on this area. Other solution if you just work with other people able to write in these languages and you just want to integrate their texts in your image: ask them to write it, and copy-paste (because setting up your system to write in Chinese for instance does not mean you will be actually able to write what you want, if you don't know Chinese at all as a language. Because then you'll never be able to understand how their input method works to achieve your goal). It's simpler. ;-)

Have fun!

Jehan

Thanks,
Partha

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:21 AM, jEsuSdA 8) wrote:

El 26/09/14 a las 15:18, Partha Bagchi escribió:

I am trying to figure out how to type in languages other than English.However, even if I select "Use Selected Font", I still don't see the native language and text still comes out in English.

Here is a screenshot.

http://www.partha.com/temp/official-gimp-texttool.png

Is there something I am missing?

Forgive me if I tell you anything is obvious to you, but I see you typed "This is a text" so, "This is a text" is what Gimp shows.

If you want to type anything in other language, I think you must type " 红房子" and then, select a font with support for this chararacter set.

In other words, the language is not defined by the typefont itself, the typefont could have or not support for one language or other, but the language is defined for the words you type.

I Repeat: May be I'm wrong and I'm tell you something that you know yet, then forgive me. But I think you typed "This is a text" on english, so, maybe this message could help you.

Tell me if this helps you or I'm telling nonsense things! ;)

Salu2 de jEsuSdA 8)

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