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Crowdfunding proposal Abraham Levi Mireles Alvarez 11 Jul 06:22
  Crowdfunding proposal Burnie West 11 Jul 19:47
   Crowdfunding proposal Jon Nordby 12 Jul 07:47
    Crowdfunding proposal Michael Schumacher 12 Jul 08:54
     Crowdfunding proposal Bernhard Stockmann 12 Jul 11:05
Abraham Levi Mireles Alvarez
2013-07-11 06:22:28 UTC (over 10 years ago)

Crowdfunding proposal

Hello Gimp team
Crowdfunding proprosal
---Introduction---
I am an artist and big fan of Gimp and the great job you have done so far with it.

Today I wanted to make you a proposal in order to make Gimp even better.

As you know Gimp being open source is developed by you, hardworking volunteers that gladly work without charge for the good of artists around the world.

But This also means that you already have jobs that you are already happy with and that you can invest as much as time as you wished.

---Proposal---

My proposal is to start a crowfunding in order to fund gimp and develop more feautures faster.

This way you could hire professional developers to work on this or invest more time on this proyect. For instance the gegl transition you guys are planing.

I am aware that there is already a "donate" choice. But it isn't goal oriented and people are less likely to donate for a "maybe". ---Suggestions---
I propose that you use either "kickstarter" ( wich is very popular) or if you feel more confortable with opensource crowdfunding there is "indigogo" here is a list of others: http://seedingfactory.com/2013/04/list-of-open-source-crowdfunding-platforms/ ( I recomend Kikcstarter becuase it's more profitable)

I have heard that you have students every year helping you every year and they get paid by google $ 5000 dollars. I think witha crowfunding this could be make but in a higher scale and a bit more reliable.

There have been indie game proyects that have raised millions of dollars for instance : 1.-http://variety.com/2013/film/news/zach-braffs-kickstarter-campaign-closes-with-3-1-million-1200487781/ 2.-http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/over-100-million-pledged-to-games 3.-http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=110973 (Krita team fellow opwn source proyect is considering crowdfunding)

I am sure you could easily get 1 million dollars (at least)or even more money with all the art community supporting you.

What you are doing is even more important than a random indie game. I am sure that you guys could raise even more money. Because what you are doing benefits (painters, photograpers, graphic designers, hobbists etc)

We artists want to support you and the only thing you need to do is ask us. Many tech sites and art fansites would spread the voice very fast and people around the world wpuld help. ---Features---
I am just an artist so I can't say wich features you should spend the money on. Personally I would like more features for painters but I think the choice should be yours.

Perhaps make a team for "painting", another for Ui and another for "photography features?. This would solve the feuture priority issue. ---ISSUES---
Hiring an administrator would solve the "how to spend" issue too. ---Conclussion---
I believe that a crowfunding would benefit greatly every gimp user and would honor your effort without breaking what GIMP is all about.

Thank you for your consideration and best regards.

Burnie West
2013-07-11 19:47:23 UTC (over 10 years ago)

Crowdfunding proposal

On 07/10/2013 11:22 PM, Abraham Levi Mireles Alvarez wrote:

Hello Gimp team
Crowdfunding proprosal
---Introduction---
I am an artist and big fan of Gimp and the great job you have done so far with it.

Since many - if not most - of the replies to your query on the gimp-user list came from people also subscribing to the gimp-developer list, I hasten to suggest that you reread them --

And, to those who might also consider replying to Abraham, I hasten to suggest (in order to minimize repetition of a quite extensive conversation on this list) that you presume he has read and thought carefully about those comments but wishes only a somewhat more in depth and thoughtful response.

One key point I think that was emphasized in that earlier conversation was that general gimp improvement is every developers objective, and focusing on specific tasks makes crowdfunding more effective.

Reviewing the projects on kickstarter, one notes that the time of delivery is precise, the task is well defined and specified, and the donor's expected return is also precisely spelled out. This is the way a crowdfunding effort seems to me likely to be successful. And this specific information is contained eloquently and more expansively in that earlier gimp-user earlier conversation.

-- Burnie

Jon Nordby
2013-07-12 07:47:18 UTC (over 10 years ago)

Crowdfunding proposal

On 11 July 2013 21:47, Burnie West wrote:

On 07/10/2013 11:22 PM, Abraham Levi Mireles Alvarez wrote:

Hello Gimp team
Crowdfunding proprosal
---Introduction---
I am an artist and big fan of Gimp and the great job you have done so far with it.

Since many - if not most - of the replies to your query on the gimp-user list came from people also subscribing to the gimp-developer list, I hasten to suggest that you reread them --

For reference, this seems to be the thread: http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/15724-gimp-kickstarter

Jon Nordby - www.jonnor.com
Michael Schumacher
2013-07-12 08:54:07 UTC (over 10 years ago)

Crowdfunding proposal

Von: "Jon Nordby"

For reference, this seems to be the thread: http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/15724-gimp-kickstarter

Looks broken on https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2013-July/thread.html

@gimpusers.com: is this due to a user setting (this 'the user may choose to not send messages to the list' option you mentioned some time ago), or was your gateway doing that?

Regards,
Michael
Bernhard Stockmann
2013-07-12 11:05:57 UTC (over 10 years ago)

Crowdfunding proposal

Am 2013-07-12 10:54, schrieb Michael Schumacher:

Von: "Jon Nordby"

For reference, this seems to be the thread: http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/15724-gimp-kickstarter

Looks broken on https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2013-July/thread.html

Looks fine here:
http://gimp.1065349.n5.nabble.com/GIMP-kickstarter-tt39199.html

@gimpusers.com: is this due to a user setting (this 'the user may choose to not send messages to the list' option you mentioned some time ago), or was your gateway doing that?

I don't know why the first message wasn't processed by gnome.org. Our server seems to have sent it correctly. As you can see other list archives have parsed and received it correctly (i.e. nabble - see top link, others too).

So it's definitely not due to the mentioned user settings. If a user sets this option it should never come up on any other archives.

best regards,
Bernhard