Paint Dynamics in git version

2010/3/10 Aurimas Juška <aurimas.juska@gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> 2010/3/9 Olivier <olecarme@gmail.com>:
> > With regards to useful extensions to this feature, it seems to me that
> the
> > most important one is the capability to tag several resources at the same
> > time, for example using combinations of the Ctrl and Shift keys while
> > clicking. In fact, this feature is useful mainly when you have a lot of
> > brushes, for example, and it would be a burden to have to tag several
> > hundreds of them.
> I have just commit such feature into development version. In you
> choose 'View as list' in any data view you can select multiple in
> usual way. Common set of tags for all selected items is displayed in
> assign tags box. If you add/remove tags there, all selected objects
> are updated accordingly. It is possible that in the future this
> feature will be available in other views and more actions might be
> available on multiple items at a time.
>
> Thanks a lot, this adds something very useful, and strongly improves the
usability of the whole thing.


> > A useful feature, in the same vein, would be to store resources in
> > sub-folders of the normal folder, and to give them automatically a tag
> > depending on the name of the sub-folder. Maybe also this could help the
> idea
> > of lazy loading that you mention: a given sub-folder would be loaded only
> if
> > the corresponding tag is used as a filter.
>
> I think tags are more flexible than folders. You can put a thing in
> only one folder (category) while tagging solution allows to assign any
> number of tags (categories, keywords) that should make it easier to
> find an item you're searching for.
>

I explained my idea poorly, let's try again. Suppose you find somewhere a
large set of interesting brushes, which you plan to use some times, but not
always. You install them in a sub-folder of your brushes folder, and choose
for this sub-folder a meaningful name. Then, maybe depending on some
explicit action, you would ask to import these brushes, giving to them as a
first tag their sub-folder name. This would not prevent you to add to them
other tags later, but it would automatically categorize them, and you could
look at them in the brushes dialog simply by placing their tag in the filter
field. By the way, it would also be useful, especially in this case, to have
a negative filter, i.e. filter the resources that don't have a given tag.

>> > A useful feature, in the same vein, would be to store resources in
>> > sub-folders of the normal folder, and to give them automatically a tag
>> > depending on the name of the sub-folder. Maybe also this could help the
>> > idea
>> > of lazy loading that you mention: a given sub-folder would be loaded
>> > only if
>> > the corresponding tag is used as a filter.
>>
>> I think tags are more flexible than folders. You can put a thing in
>> only one folder (category) while tagging solution allows to assign any
>> number of tags (categories, keywords) that should make it easier to
>> find an item you're searching for.
>
> I explained my idea poorly, let's try again. Suppose you find somewhere a
> large set of interesting brushes, which you plan to use some times, but not
> always. You install them in a sub-folder of your brushes folder, and choose
> for this sub-folder a meaningful name. Then, maybe depending on some
> explicit action, you would ask to import these brushes, giving to them as a
> first tag their sub-folder name. This would not prevent you to add to them
> other tags later, but it would automatically categorize them, and you could
> look at them in the brushes dialog simply by placing their tag in the filter
> field. By the way, it would also be useful, especially in this case, to have
> a negative filter, i.e. filter the resources that don't have a given tag.
> --
> Olivier Lecarme
>

Olivier -

Take a look at the GURM python plugin http://registry.gimp.org/node/13473

This is what I use currently for managing my patterns, brushes, and
gradients. The only drawback for me is that it only supports a single
(flat) directory structure. If it were enhanced to allow selection of
folders and subfolders then it would be extremely useful, rather than
just really useful ;)

I am not sure, however, if such a tool will work well with tagging as
I do not know if once resources are unloaded the tag information is
discarded and lost the next time the resources are loaded...

-Rob A>

Two questions about Paint Dynamics, a feature which I find extremely
promising, and about which I would like very much to have more explanations
than the current GUI specifications:

1. What is the difference between Fade Tapering and Fade Tappering, and the
same question for Velocity Tapering and Tappering?

2. When trying to change an existing Paint Dynamics, the Mapping Matrix is
grayed out, to show that it is read-only. However, the other tabs are not,
and I can check boxes and change curves. Is this a bug or a feature?

By the way, is there somewhere some explanations about the purpose and use
of tags and filters? I think I can guess a large part of this, but reading
authorized text would be useful.

On Sunday 07 March 2010 17:25:36 Olivier wrote:
> 1. What is the difference between Fade Tapering and Fade Tappering, and the
> same question for Velocity Tapering and Tappering?
One is renamed other. I made a typo. Sorry. Since you didn't do "make
uninstall" between updates,you ended up with both.

> 2. When trying to change an existing Paint Dynamics, the Mapping Matrix is
> grayed out, to show that it is read-only. However, the other tabs are not,
> and I can check boxes and change curves. Is this a bug or a feature?
That is a bug. You are not supposed to be able to edit anything for now, but
hopefully things change before 2.8.

> By the way, is there somewhere some explanations about the purpose and use
> of tags and filters? I think I can guess a large part of this, but reading
> authorized text would be useful.

I doubt there is a text, even less authorized one, on this. Closest you can
get is when you find Auris , the author of this feature, in IRC and get him to
talk to you. Shouldn't be that complicated tho. you can assign tags to
resources and you can use filters to see just the tagged ones.

--alexia

Hi,

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Alexia Death <alexiadeath@gmail.com> wrote:
>> By the way, is there somewhere some explanations about the purpose and use
>> of tags and filters? I think I can guess a large part of this, but reading
>> authorized text would be useful.
>
> I doubt there is a text, even less authorized one, on this. Closest you can
> get is when you find Auris , the author of this feature, in IRC and get him to
> talk to you. Shouldn't be that complicated tho. you can assign tags to
> resources and you can use filters to see just the tagged ones.

You can go to http://sites.google.com/site/aurijusk/gimp-resource-tagging
and choose tagging.pdf.

Regards,
Aurimas

2010/3/8 Aurimas Juška :
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Alexia Death <alexiadeath@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> By the way, is there somewhere some explanations about the purpose and use
>>> of tags and filters? I think I can guess a large part of this, but reading
>>> authorized text would be useful.
>>
>> I doubt there is a text, even less authorized one, on this. Closest you can
>> get is when you find Auris , the author of this feature, in IRC and get him to
>> talk to you. Shouldn't be that complicated tho. you can assign tags to
>> resources and you can use filters to see just the tagged ones.
>
> You can go to http://sites.google.com/site/aurijusk/gimp-resource-tagging
> and choose tagging.pdf.
>
> Regards,
> Aurimas

Hi-

In that document it states:

Easy resource package import and export
It would be nice to allow users to share their favorite resources
which could be saved into
packages (together with tags assigned to them) and then shared with
other users which could
import them.

What is the format for this? If I wanted to distribute (for example)
a set of pre-tagged patterns, could this be done currently in the dev
build?

-Rob A>

Hi,

2010/3/10 Rob Antonishen <rob.antonishen@gmail.com>:
> What is the format for this?  If I wanted to distribute (for example)
> a set of pre-tagged patterns, could this be done currently in the dev
> build?

There is no such feature yet. The idea is a simple archive of resouces
+ tags + possibly some metadata. When resource package is dragged on
GIMP it would install where necessary. Some tool to create such
packages would be good too. However, first tag file format would have
to be standardized a bit so that resource packages could be used not
only in GIMP.

Additional ideas are welcome.

Regards,
Aurimas

2010/3/10 Aurimas Juška
> Hi,
>
> 2010/3/10 Rob Antonishen
>> What is the format for this?  If I wanted to distribute (for example)
>> a set of pre-tagged patterns, could this be done currently in the dev
>> build?
>
> There is no such feature yet. The idea is a simple archive of resouces
> + tags + possibly some metadata.  When resource package is dragged on
> GIMP it would install where necessary. Some tool to create such
> packages would be good too. However, first tag file format would have
> to be standardized a bit so that resource packages could be used not
> only in GIMP.
>
> Additional ideas are welcome.
>
> Regards,
> Aurimas
>

Thanks for the response. So where/how are tags stored now? In a
separate rc fil somewhere?

-Rob A>